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Subject: Re: Multiprocessor Chess Engines for Everyone . . . When?

Author: Georg v. Zimmermann

Date: 16:31:45 11/14/00

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On November 14, 2000 at 18:47:37, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On November 14, 2000 at 12:16:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 2000 at 17:24:16, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On November 13, 2000 at 15:27:41, Marc van Hal wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 13, 2000 at 14:58:59, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Today, the wealthy or lucky have multiprocessor computers and can use the new
>>>>>programs being discussed here.  But is this a precursor to a major advance in
>>>>>home computers anytime soon?  When?
>>>>>
>>>>>I just recently purchased a 1 GHz single-processor PC.  Generally, I plan to
>>>>>replace my computer after about five years, or maybe sooner if there is a big
>>>>>difference sooner.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, to pick a specific date, how about five years from now, 2000 + 5 = 2005 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Will multiprocessor PCs then be commonplace on the consumer market, priced so
>>>>>the ordinary person can afford them?  More importantly, what will the chess
>>>>>software look like then?
>>>>>
>>>>>For example:  Will the chess programs for multiprocessor PC computers be
>>>>>designed to perform different tasks or functions on the different processors, or
>>>>>will the processors just be "bunched together" to make the computer look like a
>>>>>really fast single-processor computer?
>>>>>
>>>>>Also:  Do the current crop of chess engines use the processors for different
>>>>>tasks?
>>>>>
>>>>>Answers or speculations "are hereby solicited."
>>>>
>>>>For the same money you purchased your 1gig cpu and board you could have bought a
>>>>celeron multiproccesor motherboard with 2 x 500Mhz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Which would perform worse at chess (and probably at anything else) than the 1GHz
>>>computer he has just bought.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>But ok it is treu that buying this kind of hardware is extremely expensive for
>>>>the comon man
>>>>I doubt that in the future more programs will use multiprossecor tasks but what
>>>>you do see is that all the hardware gets it's own prossecor like video and audio
>>>>card and so on
>>>>It also is not so that if you use 2 x 1gig cpu on a multi poccesor you get a
>>>>speed of 2 gigs so not as fast as a single cpu computer of 2 gigs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>That's right.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't think multiprocessor computers will be the norm in the future. The trend
>>>in personal computing is going in another direction.
>>>
>>>Have a look at:
>>> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20001113/tc/comdex_microsoft_dc_1.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>>You have said this before.  Yet it directly contradicts what I see happening
>>at both Dell and Gateway.  They are selling _many_ dual-processor machines.
>>Not to mention the dual-cpu motherboard market which is continually strapped
>>for parts due to demand.
>
>This may apply to  the US, but not to Europe, or at least not to Spain. It is
>true that here I see more and more ads about duals and quads from HP, IBM and
>Siemens, but directed exclusively to enterprises. Nobody I know has a dual, and
>the shop that has been building mine, the biggest shop in the province, had no
>experience at all about them, which by the way doesn't make me feel very
>confident.
>
>I have no idea about what is the future in computers and I wonder if anybody has
>it. In my case it was a rather simple decision. If I wanted to play comp-comp I
>had 2 options: 2 fast single machines or a fast dual for the same money. The
>dual will do the same for comp-comp, but it will be faster for other things,
>so...
>
>And now for what I always wanted to know and I never dared to ask: what does SMP
>stand for?
>
>Enrique

Symmetric Multi-Processing ( I think )

Georg :)




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