Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 23:03:39 11/14/00
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On November 14, 2000 at 23:47:52, Christophe Theron wrote: >On November 14, 2000 at 20:02:13, Mogens Larsen wrote: > >>On November 14, 2000 at 19:33:24, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>You can not be blamed liking a program. Objective vs Subjective. Nobody >>>is objective once you fall in love with a program and I don't see any >>>bad in that as long as you were objective and reserved before the program >>>came. >> >>The inability to recognize that your objectivity is failing low :o) is one of >>the hazards when you test a program. The credibility before and after is very >>important and "losing" your objectivity too many times won't help keeping the >>credibility intact. >> >>>Missed chance? I hear Gandalf is good. Why not write about it? >> >>I've written about the program when there have been questions or if someone >>posted highly inaccurate information in all the relevant fora. That is fair IMHO >>as long as the term inaccurate is an objective criteria and not a personal >>opinion. I've most likely posted a few subjective comments along the way as >>well. >> >>>Not true. Note that many of the Rebel beta-testers a) also beta-test other >>>programs b) are as positive on other products as well. >> >>If beta testers circulate from program to program credibility is undermined. >>Someone could easily argue that they just want free programs and praise every >>product because of that. >> >>>Also you forget a main important point, from the beginning we (Christophe >>>and I) have told the beta-team: no secrecy you can write about the beta's >>>in public forums. That is quite risky don't you think? >> >>Not really. I think you underestimate the element of gratitude as in "Yes! I got >>selected! I won't disappoint them". At some point most of the beta testers will >>identify themselves with the product and take defeat and victory of the given >>program personally. There are plenty of examples from this forum and not just >>Rebel. Or maybe I'm just a cynic :o). >> >>>What if Rebel 11.0 >>>would have been a product they disliked? And if a review comes in I dislike >>>it will be published too. Beta-testers have the freedom to include their >>>dislikes as a matter of fact I have pointed to an old review of Rebel8 at: >> >>I'm glad to hear that, but I doubt it'll be a common occurance unless the >>program is really awful. A couple of the reviews are quite good, but they still >>lack what characterizes a real review, ie. both sides of the coin. >> >>>But the beta-testers go their own way and I am not going to censor them. >> >>Of course not. I never implied that you would. >> >>Mogens. > > > >I'm concerned that people can believe that the published reviews are >advertisements, because that's not what they are. > >Ed, it's up to you to decide, but I would personally offer Mogens to write a >review of the Rebel 11 CD, and I would promiss to publish it on the Rebel site >and on CCC. > >That would of course imply to send to Mogens the product for free, but I guess >this wouldn't bias Mogens' review. > >I do believe Mogens tries to stay objective. Sometimes he does not manage, but >generally he is rather objective. > >I'm sure that because he is a rather objective guy, he would not write a >negative review of the Rebel 11 product. By letting Mogens write a review we >take a risk, but anyway we are taking this kind of risk everyday. > >By letting the beta testers express themselves during the beta period we have >taken a risk that no other chess software publisher dares to take. > >As soon as we publish our chess programs, we take the risk that they get beaten >by other programs, the risk that people don't like the way they look, the risk >that people criticize it in an unfair way, and so on... > >I don't think Mogens would write an unfair review. So why couldn't we ask him to >write a review and publish it? > > > > Christophe :-) I am in agreement. Mogens, how about it? Ed
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