Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 14:12:51 11/15/00
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On November 14, 2000 at 14:48:59, Chessfun wrote: >On November 14, 2000 at 14:18:08, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote: > >>On November 14, 2000 at 13:11:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On November 14, 2000 at 13:00:53, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote: >>> >>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:54:00, Mogens Larsen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:18:05, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>After move 18 there is _no_ improvement. I have no doubts about wicker-man being >>>>>>a computer. >>>>>> >>>>>>Being rated on ICC at 1800 is like being rated about 1400-1500 on FICS. There is >>>>>>almost no possible way for that type player to beat todays programs. I would >>>>>>inform speedtrap of his actions. >>>>> >>>>>That's a very speculative foundation for reporting another player. If he did the >>>>>same against human opposition, his rating probably wouldn't be as low as it is. >>>>>Besides, what's the big deal in cheating on a computer program. >>>>> >>>>>Mogens. >>>> >>>>It´s a big deal because the program expects to play a human opponent and when >>>>the person who is running the (C)(in this case Rebel Tiger) analyzes the games >>>>played against humans, he will analyze this game too and import it to a database >>>>with all human opponents. So, he will get wrong results.. Allthough, it´s just >>>>one game but if everybody cheats, then the results against humans will be >>>>completly worthless. IMO >>>> >>>>Alvaro >>> >>> >>>If you play 1800-level players on ICC, FICS or chess.net, this is just a fact >>>of life. You _are_ going to play computer cheaters. There are far more >>>cheaters at the lower ratings (there are also far more players down there too, >>>of course). >>> >>>It is a huge problem... >> >>I played in zone some months ago, and the computer cheaters there where all >>rated above 2100+, which was a high rating then, probably in the top 100 on the >>site. I don´t understand how the computer cheaters can be rated 1800 on ICC, >>that´s low for a program ! Do they play advanced chess or do they play every >>move suggested by the program ? I´m confused. >> >>Alvaro > >They are very clever in how they operate. >They for example will play a few moves of their own or pick 2nd or 3rd best >computer choices. They make sure they lose games to slightly higher rated >players. They may play the opening themselves prior to following the program. >The methods are endless. > >Using a computer at ICC unless your account is a (C) is not allowed. >Advanced chess or so called don't exist there. > >Sarah. First, the game posted at the beginning of this thread was a legit game, not a game where someone cheated with a computer. Now that I've said that, on to the real reason I am posting. You can play all the "advanced" chess that you want on ICC, as long as you have a "C". IM Schroer has a computer/human account and he explains all about it in his notes. It is called RoboSchro. bruce
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