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Subject: Re: Crafty for the Mac/PPc

Author: Richard A. Fowell (fowell@netcom.com)

Date: 17:01:23 01/10/98

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On January 10, 1998 at 16:18:21, William Dozier wrote:

>Good Day everyone, and to all who own Macs. This is regarding openning
>books and table base. I have ran crafty on the Mac and its a good
>machine for crafty to run on.

Especially with assembly-code modules for the bitboard operations,
as in the PC version.

>So now i have some questions. What is the
>proper t/b w/b for the end game for the Mac? Some of the t/b seems to be
>corrupted and outdated. The large books seemed to be outdated and
>corrupt. I have put the whole thing togather last year and tested aganst
>Hiarcs 1.0 It did pretty well aganst Hiarcs 1.0 And its runs real fast
>on the Mac PPc. Has anybody did any real testing, Crafty Vs. Hiarcs 6.0.

There have been some manual ICC games between Hiarcs 6.0 Mac and Crafty.
I imagine there have also been many between Hiarcs 6.0 PC and Crafty.

>I havent done any testing, Im incline to belive that Craft will do well,
>if you chess programmer put your minds to it, And that would be a nice
>project to work on; since the Crafty chess program has not been updated
>for some time.

Yes <sigh>. I know at least one programmer who is capable of doing it
(he gave me a Crafty 12.9 PPC version with some of the bitmap stuff
assembly coded) but he says it isn't ready to post. I'll see if I can
get him interested.

>So anyway more questions. How do one use unity, to put
>togather the t/b and the larg books, and to get them to work properly
>and up and running for the Mac? Ps.Crafty for the Mac even when its not
>put togather right it works real good with the graphical chess interface
>or if one want to use the keyboard to input the moves. It has been
>proven that Crafty and Hiarcs runs faster on the Mac than IBM machine or
>its clones

Hmmm ... Hiarcs yes, Crafty I'm not sure of.
The partly optimized Crafty 12.9 got 80,877 nps on the "1.a3 test"
on a G3/250 accelerator card, (323 nps/MHz), which seems decent,
but I don't have any other 12.9 results to compare.

>/infact The old, new and future Mac O/S is a good platform to
>run the best chess programs. Case and point, if Rebel was written for
>the mac, it would unbeatable. Can anybody prove me wrong that the IBM
>machines are a beter platform. Why dont you guys put it to test, you got
>the money and the machines and the brains, lets do it!/ I would like
>some postive answer and feedback. Respectfully/William Dozier.

Alas, the people with the money to buy chess software mainly own PCs.
However, I continue to try to help out/support those that are willing
to write chess software for the Mac.

Richard A. Fowell (fowell@netcom.com)
For Mac Chess software sites on the Web, start at:
http://members.aol.com/Macchess/
and follow the links.



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