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Subject: Re: End game puzzle

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:46:48 11/16/00

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On November 16, 2000 at 11:18:13, Howard Exner wrote:

>On November 16, 2000 at 05:38:30, allan johnson wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2000 at 05:34:46, allan johnson wrote:
>>>sorry thats a white pawn on h3
>> Imust be on drugs or something Sorry
>>  [D]1R6/2pk4/1P6/8/3r4/K7/P7/8 w - -
>
>This position Tiger finds immediately (both Tiger13 and Gambit, since the
>endgame play for these two is identical - as it should be). Tiger has some smart
>passed pawn code for these kinds of positions.
>
>Century 3 misses this one as it does not extend enough. After a few forced moves
>when the black rook is captured it extends to see an immediate win. Why not
>extend more when the rooks are still on? An overall performance hit?
>
>Table base programs should find this in a snap but again we see an example of a
>non table base program (Tiger) finding it (I'm sure they'll be others). In a
>previous post for the Ne4 position it was Century's turn to shine while Tiger
>faltered.

Here is my results:

         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.00   1.96   1. Rb7
                1->   0.01   1.96   1. Rb7
                2     0.01   1.66   1. Rb7 Kc6
                2     0.01     ++   1. b7!!
                2     0.01   2.34   1. b7 Kc6 2. Kb3
                2->   0.01   2.34   1. b7 Kc6 2. Kb3
                3     0.02   2.04   1. b7 Kc6 2. Kb3 Rd2
                3->   0.04   2.04   1. b7 Kc6 2. Kb3 Rd2
                4     0.05   2.14   1. b7 Kc6 2. Kb3 Rd3+ 3. Kc4 Rd2
                4->   0.07   2.14   1. b7 Kc6 2. Kb3 Rd3+ 3. Kc4 Rd2
                5     0.33   2.16   1. b7 Kc6 2. Kb3 Rd1 3. Kc3 Kc5
                5     0.44     ++   1. Rd8+!!
                5     0.47   3.12   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Rd3+ 3. Kb2 Rd2+
                                    4. Kc3 Rxa2 5. b8=Q+ Kd7
         (2)    5->   0.50   3.12   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Rd3+ 3. Kb2 Rd2+
                                    4. Kc3 Rxa2 5. b8=Q+ Kd7
                6     0.77   3.50   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 c5 3. b8=Q+ Kd7
                                    4. Qb6 Rd3+ 5. Ka4 c4
                6->   0.82   3.50   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 c5 3. b8=Q+ Kd7
                                    4. Qb6 Rd3+ 5. Ka4 c4
                7     0.85   3.68   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Kd7 3. b8=Q Kc6
                                    4. Qb2 Kd5 5. Kb3
                7->   0.93   3.68   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Kd7 3. b8=Q Kc6
                                    4. Qb2 Kd5 5. Kb3
                8     1.13   3.70   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Kd7 3. b8=Q c5 4.
                                    Qb6 <HT>
                8->   1.43   3.70   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Kd7 3. b8=Q c5 4.
                                    Qb6 <HT>
                9     1.64   3.87   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Kd7 3. b8=Q Kc6
                                    4. Kb3 Rd1 5. Qe8+ Kb6 6. Qe6+ c6 7.
                                    a4
                9->   1.80   3.87   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Kd7 3. b8=Q Kc6
                                    4. Kb3 Rd1 5. Qe8+ Kb6 6. Qe6+ c6 7.
                                    a4
               10     2.58   3.93   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Rd3+ 3. Kb2 Kd7
                                    4. b8=Q Rd6 5. Qb5+ c6 6. Qf5+ Kc7
                                    7. Qa5+ Kd7 8. Qa7+ Ke6 9. Qc5
...
               12     7.75   4.15   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Rd6 3. b8=Q+ Kd7
                                    4. Qb5+ Kd8 5. Qc5 Rb6 6. Ka4 Kd7 7.
                                    Qd5+ Kc8 8. Ka5 Rd6 9. Qc5
               12->   9.16   4.15   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Rd6 3. b8=Q+ Kd7
                                    4. Qb5+ Kd8 5. Qc5 Rb6 6. Ka4 Kd7 7.
                                    Qd5+ Kc8 8. Ka5 Rd6 9. Qc5
               13    14.72   4.23   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Rd6 3. b8=Q+ Kd7
                                    4. Qb5+ Kd8 5. Qg5+ Kc8 6. Kb4 Kb7
                                    7. Qg2+ c6 8. Qg7+ Kb6 9. Qe5 Rd5 10.
                                    Qb8+ Ka6 11. a4 c5+ 12. Kc4
               13->  16.92   4.23   1. Rd8+ Kxd8 2. b7 Rd6 3. b8=Q+ Kd7
                                    4. Qb5+ Kd8 5. Qg5+ Kc8 6. Kb4 Kb7
                                    7. Qg2+ c6 8. Qg7+ Kb6 9. Qe5 Rd5 10.
                                    Qb8+ Ka6 11. a4 c5+ 12. Kc4



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