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Subject: Re: Moreland In Plain Language Here! I agree.

Author: Mike S.

Date: 15:10:03 11/16/00

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On November 16, 2000 at 17:44:00, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>(...)
>
>People don't want to simply get whacked by their programs, they want to get
>whacked well.  They want to feel like they've been whacked by a human, so they
>can practice against the computer and feel like they are practicing against a
>strong human.  The idea being, of course, that eventually they can beat strong
>humans, which will make them strong humans, too.  And that is their overall
>goal.
>
>The concern is to avoid moves that look computery, and it's been considered by
>many that a brainless eval results in computery looking moves.
>
>Some people have also made claims that a smarter program will perform better
>given a hardware increase.
>
>And so on, it goes on forever, although people rarely talk about subjective
>stuff like contrasting styles or the "educational" strength of chess programs.
>All you hear about are match results and computer vs computer ratings and other
>silliness.  There are lots of specific topics that can be discussed for instance
>how easy it is to king-attack various programs, or which programs will trade
>into a lost K+P ending rather than keeping the last pair of rooks on, or the
>benefits of various pawn structures, but none of this gets discussed.
>
>I think silliness is fine, but we've had years of it here, there are a lot of
>people spending a lot of time spinning their wheels.
>
>bruce

Well spoken, very well spoken!

Thousands of games, but only a handful of interesting observations (if any),
aside from the pure result figures. I'm tired of that too. Especially, I think
we must overcome the "rating list thinking" probably.

Regards,
M.Scheidl



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