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Subject: Re: Rules of check?

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 10:33:50 11/17/00

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On November 16, 2000 at 19:18:10, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On November 16, 2000 at 17:24:37, Lenard Spencer wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2000 at 04:25:53, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>On November 16, 2000 at 02:51:47, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 15, 2000 at 20:40:16, Lenard Spencer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This question may probably be best answered by the problemists, but if what I'm
>>>>>thinking is correct, it may be possible to make looking for double checks go a
>>>>>lot faster than the brute force approach of looking all over the board for more
>>>>>than one checker.
>>>>
>>>>The way I use it:
>>>>first, can the piece just moved attack the king (lookup table)? If so get the
>>>>direction in which it needs to travel (same lookup table) and check if there are
>>>>any other pieces blocking.
>>>>
>>>>second, can a rook or bishop attack the king from the fromsquare of the moved
>>>>piece. If so get the direction, then travel from the king in the direction of
>>>>the fromsquare until you go off the board (no discoverd check) or bump into a
>>>>piece (if piece=rook,bishop,queen then it's a discovered check)
>>>>
>>>>if ( first and second) then doublecheck:=true;
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>How about this position:
>>>
>>>[D]8/8/7k/6pP/8/4B3/7R/7K w - g6
>>>
>>>The move 1.hxg6 is double check, but it is not clear to me how your algorithm
>>>catches this.
>>>
>>
>>In this example, the pawn move delivers a double check, but the pawn itself is
>>not a checking piece.  But it does serve to illustrate just how tricky it can
>>be.
>
>Yes, that was the point of my post. It is unusual, because it is a "double
>discovered check" to put it more precisely. The loss of the Black pawn discovers
>a check from the Bishop and the capture by the White pawn discovers a check from
>the Rook.
>
>There is a similar "joker" concerning pins too, which a naive algorithm may
>miss.

Yes and no: an intended ep capture cannot be illegal by simply uncovering a
check through the captured pawn: vertically the line (column) is not opened
(the moving pawn closes it again), and diagonally undiscovering a check
would imply that in the move before the other side could have captured
the king instead of moving that pawn.

Horizontally we can have a pin through *both* pawns (as well as an
undiscovered check through both of them), but I cannot see how we could
have two simultaneous pins for an ep capture.

E.p. captures are somewhat tricky, yes.

Heiner



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