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Subject: Re: off-topic but nevertheless: is NOT anymore counting still democratic ???

Author: Michael Cummings

Date: 15:10:39 11/17/00

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On November 17, 2000 at 17:31:50, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>Hi T:
>It is not so simple as you put it: or they count all or they count nothing.
>Somewhere some kind of stop must be putted in any kind of election or process.
>If not, if you have not a legal limit but try to validate a factual limit,  then
>you always can say than in Dodge city there are three ladies that were sick and
>it is neccesary to wait what they think. Or that in Aspen, Colorado, 123 people
>went home because they tired to wait in the quee. Etc. So a limit must me
>imposed -even somewhat arbitrary in date- and in fact it is so in every part of
>the world. What makes of a country a democratic one is not the perfection of the
>process of counting every posible vote without no room for mistakes, delays,
>etc, but the chance for everyone to go to vote. Besides we are talking of
>99,999% of votes currently counted: how you can say that the remain - .0001- is
>enough to say there is no democracy?
>Democracy has to do with the will of the mass of the people decently expresed in
>a general mechanism subjected to pitfalls, not with the sum of the will of every
>possible human entity.
>Your argument is correct only in cases where the difference between mass of
>voters and mass of votes counted is dramatic.It is not the case. What makes the
>issue seems dramatic is just the mathematic of the result AND the mechanic of
>the electoral college. But then we could speak of a different problem: not
>democracy or not, but a good electoral mechanism or not.
>Fernando

I hear when these electorial college people get together, that some might jump
ship and goto the other side, since they do have the power to do that. So if
that happens then the whole process is a joke, just having that allowing to
happen is a joke.

Lets vote for say Gore, he wins Florida, those college people get together and
say we will give our votes to bush, now what the hell is that ????? And they can
do it, just ask CNN and all their political experts.



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