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Subject: Re: Thorsten and Michael don't have the facts

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 16:05:14 11/17/00

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On November 17, 2000 at 18:43:02, Stephen Ham wrote:
>Anyway, while the process seems messy for the moment, this is democracy in
>action and is proof that everyone's vote counts.

sorry. but i don't think this is democracy.

if there are really complains that black people were put under pressure
not to elect or what to elect, its not a democratic election.
if you do not count all votes,
its not democratic.


>The system works but clearly
>there's room for improvement.

i am sure "the system" works. but what is "the system" ?
i would say the "system" is the same system the UdSSR was.
e.g. in the UdSSR you were not allowed to travel into west-countries.
this was done to save the people in the UdSSR against the bad and evil and mean
capitalism.

in GDR (eastern germany) there were "elections" too. but in many elections
the government of the SED always got the most votes, very high % and all people
knew: these numbers are faked.

how can you be sure the results you see are more accurate than the faked
results in the GDR ?


>Can you name a country where this same slim result
>would have been handled any more efficiently and fairer? I don't think that
>country exists.

firstival, the countries i do know have often MORE than 2 big parties.
at least 2 big and 2 smaller ones.

and also some parties <5%.

then: in other countries the gap between poor and rich people is not that big.
(if usa would be smaller, the difference between poor and rich would not be able
to realize in other way then with weapons or dictatorship).





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