Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 19:17:47 11/17/00
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On November 17, 2000 at 19:55:20, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On November 17, 2000 at 19:06:47, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>I think that you presume much by starting a thread criticizing another country >>in a computer chess usenet group. > >my girl friend was today called : Jawoll ! Jawoll ! Jawoll ! You are a NAZI! >and lick my a.. >by a nice and friendly, civilized and cultural balanced young american >who thought : i am pissed of, therefore i am taking an umbrella and jump on my >bed and make some (5-6) nice wholes into the sealing. Sounds like the guy is a dick-head. We do have them here. Ironically, most of them drive German cars. >when we asked him: why have you done it, why not going upstairs and ask >the guy (who lives) above you to play the piano less loud or another time, >he said: i was pissed off. > >this always reminds me on the moderator email from another american i got, >where he explained to me that HE HAD THE FEELING that my posting was >offending others. > >seems americans have feelings and this leads them to actions they cannot control >anymore. > >since the young guy from america (jeff is his name) has not yet >payed the rent for november, and has destroyed two regridgerators >i had to bring to the rubbish dump (2x30 DM) , >and since he called her and her professors at the university crazy, >for whatever reason - i guess he had the feeling to do so - > >i am maybe today not that balanced to be nice to america in general. > > >>It's a giant politial mess and it will end up getting resolved in the courts, >>and there will generally be a big disaster and people will be upset for four >>years at least. Oh well, I can recall being upset by presidential elections in >>the past. > >>Bush doesn't want them recounted, since he's winning. Gore loses nothing by >>asking for a recount, because he's losing. The judge who said one thing belongs >>to Gore's party, and the Florida official who said another thing belongs to >>Bush's party. > >isn't this all not very trustable ?! >this all sound very very incredible. That's life. >> Florida has a lot of old people who punched their ballots badly, >>so they couldn't be read by the computer, but if you look at them you can figure >>out who they meant to vote for. > >so the votes are guilty but the machine cannot read it ? or are the votes not >guilty ???? > >is the machine deciding which votes are guilty ??? or WHO decides or WHO >knows???????? > >you vote and nobody really knows if the counting of the machine was accurate ? > >?????? >you have voting cards and you put them into the machine and it says: > >bush 167 and al gore 347 and if you count them by hand >you suddenly get bush 250 and 212 gore ???? > >and you ask me why i think it is not democratic ??!? It's antiquated, and they should fix it. >>Gore would gain a lot if he could have votes >>recounted in places where there are a lot of old Jewish people from up north, >>who tend to vote for his party. > >??? is the machine not counting al gores votes from old jewish people ?!?!?!?!?! If the machine doesn't understand who was voted for, it doesn't count the vote. Florida is warm. The northeastern part of the country is cold in the winter. Old people from the northeast retire and move to Florida. The politics in the southern part of the country are more conservative than the politics in the northeastern part. When people move down there, they tend to move to particular areas. So you get areas with a lot of people who would tend to vote one way, and other areas where they would tend to vote another way. If the voting mechanism is bad in a place where people would have tended to vote for Gore, Gore suffers more than Bush. So if votes in those places are counted more accurately, Gore will benefit. The argument is all about where they will take the trouble to count the votes accurately. This would not have mattered if Florida had done what it usually does, and voted conservatively. There are getting to be enough people from up north who have moved down there, that the state is apparently exactly balanced. >sorry - this is all to complicate for me... It's insane, an it's unfortunate that they had problems in the one place where who voted for who really matters. >>If there is going to have to be a recount, Bush >>would probably prefer it to be state-wide. This is an election involving >>something like four million people, which will be resolved by under a thousand >>votes, and will decide the election for leader of a country of a quarter billion >>people. > > >the richest country in the world. >has no money to count accurate for their president ??? > >american way of life... drifting... sinking... We are doing just fine, mostly. >seems we see a new paradigm in USA too... revolution !! > >all revolutions happen in november bruce. take care ! > > >>Florida is also one of the weirdest states in the US, with apologies to any >>Florida residents who may take offense. If you want to read some very good >>books set in Florida, I suggest you read anything by Carl Hiaason, another good >>European author for you, just like Kuhn. > >:-)))) > >i prefer richard sennett "der flexible Mensch" when it comes to >evaluate the amercian way of life... >from a european point of view :-))) Hiaason doesn't evaluate the American way of life, he writes funny fictional books that are set in Florida. I am certain that we will see a book about an election there at some point in the future. >>So it's a big mess, and if I gave a damn about it, I might figure it out well >>enough to have an opinion. However, I'm here to do computer chess so I don't >>care so much, and I'm just thankful that so far nobody has started shooting over >>this. > >yes. > >i just wonder each day. i ask my friend: ahem - are they still counting in usa ? >do they know whom they elected ??? > >and we all say: lets wait until the next news comes. Good plan. It is all screwed up now and it won't be fixed until they do a few more rounds of court. >>Regardless, I can't figure out why you care, since it's not your country that's >>involved. > >today i am not that much tolerant regarding americans... >i said some really unfriendly things to this young man... Good. It sounds like he deserved it. bruce
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