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Subject: Re: gambit-tiger has 2x - 3.46x slower hardware !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:57:22 11/18/00

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On November 18, 2000 at 14:13:23, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On November 18, 2000 at 12:39:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>>Junior6 is leading a tournament now when Deep Fritz is second.
>>See http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/4071.htm
>
>Teilnehmer
>
>Hiarcs7.32	A1100 (CSS-Master-Version)
>Hiarcs7.01	P3-500
>Nimzo7		A1000
>CM6000		A1100
>DFritz		2xP3-866
>CTiger		P3-840
>GTiger		P3-500
>Junior6		A1000
>Shredder4	A800 (500MB RAM)
>Zarkov501	A1000
>Rebel C.3	A1000
>Goliath L2.0	A650
>Gandalf		P1000
>Cigorins Way	Cel.500
>
>If we order the megahertz we get
>
>1.DFritz		2xP3-866
>2.Hiarcs7.32	        A1100 (CSS-Master-Version)
>  CM6000		A1100
>3.Junior6		A1000
>  Rebel C.3	        A1000
>  Zarkov501	        A1000
>  Gandalf		P1000
>4.CTiger		P3-840
>5.Shredder4	        A800 (500MB RAM)
>6.Goliath L2.0	        A650
>7.GTiger		P3-500
>...
>
>so the chances for Fritz and Junior to win this tournament
>by hardware advantage are very good.
>If you see that Rebel-Tiger13 is not that good in swiss-tournament
>since it plays very solid and can give away half-points,
>and the only difficult opponent for DF and junior is Gambit-Tiger,
>but they gave Gambit-Tiger a machine that is on a 6th
>fast machine, they gave their best to fine-tune the tournament
>the way the FASTEST machines will make it.
>
>>Tiger13 has slightly worse hardware but it does not justify difference of more
>>than 1/2 point so I can say that Junior's result is clearly better than
>>Tiger13's result.
>
>pah - the way you talk about the programs is really funny.
>Rebel-Tiger13 is not good in swiss-tournaments, GAMBIT-Tiger is much
>stronger in such a field. and Gambit-Tiger got a slower hardware.
>That slow that even junior (who gets 50% against Gambit-Tiger, not more
>and not less) has better chances with 2x faster hardware.
>
>junior is 2x faster hardware, DF even 3.46 times faster hardware !

Your math is a good bit off.  2X800 is _not_ 1600 in the world of
parallel searching.


>
>
>>It is not a proof that Junior6 is better and there are also tournaments when the
>>opposite happens(see chessfun's results) but the difference between tiger and
>>Fritz6a or Junior6 is not very big.
>
>
>considering that gambit-tiger gets 2-3.46 times slower hardware,
>junior and fritz are very lucky.
>
>with same hardware gambit-tiger would win the tournament.



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