Author: Fernando Villegas
Date: 17:39:44 11/18/00
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On November 18, 2000 at 20:19:12, Will Singleton wrote: >On November 18, 2000 at 19:05:56, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On November 18, 2000 at 14:03:31, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>On November 18, 2000 at 12:50:40, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote: >>> >>>>On November 18, 2000 at 12:33:37, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 18, 2000 at 08:40:36, Arshad Syed wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Fritz and Junior completely anhilated their opponents in the KC human-machine >>>>>>challenge. Junior played some remarkable human-esque chess in a couple of its >>>>>>games. One of them was a gem, where DJ disregards pawn material and instead >>>>>>launches a ferocious attack on the kingside. The only other computer game that >>>>>>was so human-like was the Hiarcs-Deen Hergott match which involved a >>>>>>Queen/Knight sacrifice by the computer. >>>>>> >>>>>>All this and hardly any mention in this NG, except for a handful of >>>>>>congratulatory messages. I mean I have seen much longer and more animated >>>>>>discussions for lesser quality comp-human games on the ICC, with moves being >>>>>>discussed in microscopic detail. >>>>>> >>>>>>...and finally, there was this thread on the US electoral system which possibly >>>>>>was the longest and most elaborately discussed in recent weeks. >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>Arshad >>>>> >>>>>I have wondered myself too. >>>>> >>>>>In a mailing I have announced a 6-game match against computer killer >>>>>GM v/d Wiel and got about zero response. What to do? Cancel it? >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>> >>>>Your Rebels are partly responsible for this! >>>>Everyone remembers Rebel 10-Anand! >>>>Thanks for the games against strong humans. >>>> >>>>Here is an idea: >>>>Hold the match "live" at some slow time control. >>>>Do not tell the viewers which is the computer. >>>>Conduct a live, running poll, asking which is which. >>>>Reveal the answer after the game. >>>> >>>>This would be like a Turing test, and it might be feasable now. >>>>I think those whose programs are said to be human-like, should >>>>risk it! It would be interesting! >>> >>>Very nice idea indeed! >>> >>>Ed >> >> >> >>Yes, yes, a thousand times YES! >> >>Let's see if people are able to guess who is human, who is program! >> >> >> >> Christophe > >Wouldn't work. Immediate moves from pondering would give it away. Perhaps you >could disable pondering, or at least not move immediately? > >Will Disable? It is enough to deliver the moves above a minimal time, say, two minutes, even if the program answered in no time. Fernando
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