Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 18:30:38 11/18/00
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On November 18, 2000 at 20:39:44, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>On November 18, 2000 at 20:19:12, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On November 18, 2000 at 19:05:56, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On November 18, 2000 at 14:03:31, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 18, 2000 at 12:50:40, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 18, 2000 at 12:33:37, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 18, 2000 at 08:40:36, Arshad Syed wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fritz and Junior completely anhilated their opponents in the KC human-machine
>>>>>>>challenge. Junior played some remarkable human-esque chess in a couple of its
>>>>>>>games. One of them was a gem, where DJ disregards pawn material and instead
>>>>>>>launches a ferocious attack on the kingside. The only other computer game that
>>>>>>>was so human-like was the Hiarcs-Deen Hergott match which involved a
>>>>>>>Queen/Knight sacrifice by the computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All this and hardly any mention in this NG, except for a handful of
>>>>>>>congratulatory messages. I mean I have seen much longer and more animated
>>>>>>>discussions for lesser quality comp-human games on the ICC, with moves being
>>>>>>>discussed in microscopic detail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...and finally, there was this thread on the US electoral system which possibly
>>>>>>>was the longest and most elaborately discussed in recent weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Arshad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have wondered myself too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In a mailing I have announced a 6-game match against computer killer
>>>>>>GM v/d Wiel and got about zero response. What to do? Cancel it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>Your Rebels are partly responsible for this!
>>>>>Everyone remembers Rebel 10-Anand!
>>>>>Thanks for the games against strong humans.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is an idea:
>>>>>Hold the match "live" at some slow time control.
>>>>>Do not tell the viewers which is the computer.
>>>>>Conduct a live, running poll, asking which is which.
>>>>>Reveal the answer after the game.
>>>>>
>>>>>This would be like a Turing test, and it might be feasable now.
>>>>>I think those whose programs are said to be human-like, should
>>>>>risk it! It would be interesting!
>>>>
>>>>Very nice idea indeed!
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, yes, a thousand times YES!
>>>
>>>Let's see if people are able to guess who is human, who is program!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Christophe
>>
>>Wouldn't work. Immediate moves from pondering would give it away. Perhaps you
>>could disable pondering, or at least not move immediately?
>>
>>Will
>
>Disable? It is enough to deliver the moves above a minimal time, say, two
>minutes, even if the program answered in no time.
>Fernando
Absolutely. This would not take away anything from the thrill of the game.
Christophe
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