Author: Peter Kappler
Date: 19:05:39 11/18/00
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On November 18, 2000 at 21:30:38, Christophe Theron wrote: >On November 18, 2000 at 20:39:44, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>On November 18, 2000 at 20:19:12, Will Singleton wrote: >> >>>On November 18, 2000 at 19:05:56, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On November 18, 2000 at 14:03:31, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 18, 2000 at 12:50:40, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 18, 2000 at 12:33:37, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 18, 2000 at 08:40:36, Arshad Syed wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Fritz and Junior completely anhilated their opponents in the KC human-machine >>>>>>>>challenge. Junior played some remarkable human-esque chess in a couple of its >>>>>>>>games. One of them was a gem, where DJ disregards pawn material and instead >>>>>>>>launches a ferocious attack on the kingside. The only other computer game that >>>>>>>>was so human-like was the Hiarcs-Deen Hergott match which involved a >>>>>>>>Queen/Knight sacrifice by the computer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>All this and hardly any mention in this NG, except for a handful of >>>>>>>>congratulatory messages. I mean I have seen much longer and more animated >>>>>>>>discussions for lesser quality comp-human games on the ICC, with moves being >>>>>>>>discussed in microscopic detail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>...and finally, there was this thread on the US electoral system which possibly >>>>>>>>was the longest and most elaborately discussed in recent weeks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>Arshad >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have wondered myself too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>In a mailing I have announced a 6-game match against computer killer >>>>>>>GM v/d Wiel and got about zero response. What to do? Cancel it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ed >>>>>> >>>>>>Your Rebels are partly responsible for this! >>>>>>Everyone remembers Rebel 10-Anand! >>>>>>Thanks for the games against strong humans. >>>>>> >>>>>>Here is an idea: >>>>>>Hold the match "live" at some slow time control. >>>>>>Do not tell the viewers which is the computer. >>>>>>Conduct a live, running poll, asking which is which. >>>>>>Reveal the answer after the game. >>>>>> >>>>>>This would be like a Turing test, and it might be feasable now. >>>>>>I think those whose programs are said to be human-like, should >>>>>>risk it! It would be interesting! >>>>> >>>>>Very nice idea indeed! >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, yes, a thousand times YES! >>>> >>>>Let's see if people are able to guess who is human, who is program! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Christophe >>> >>>Wouldn't work. Immediate moves from pondering would give it away. Perhaps you >>>could disable pondering, or at least not move immediately? >>> >>>Will >> >>Disable? It is enough to deliver the moves above a minimal time, say, two >>minutes, even if the program answered in no time. >>Fernando > > > >Absolutely. This would not take away anything from the thrill of the game. > > > > Christophe But what happens when there is a 2-minute pause for an obviously forced recapture? --Peter
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