Author: Hermano Ecuadoriano
Date: 09:59:05 11/19/00
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On November 19, 2000 at 11:27:30, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 19, 2000 at 11:20:20, Ricardo Gibert wrote: > >>On November 19, 2000 at 11:16:43, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote: >> >>>On November 19, 2000 at 11:05:41, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >>> >>>>On November 19, 2000 at 10:25:21, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote: >>>> >>>>>There has been some discussion here about holding some >>>>>"exhibition" variations on the Turing test. >>>>> >>>>>This must be done eventually. >>>>>If successful, it would be epoch-making. >>>>> >>>>>I think the year 2001 is fantastically apropo, >>>>>promotionally speaking! >>>> >>>>I don't think any of the top computer programs can come close to passing a >>>>turing test. There is a well known class of positions that are easy for humans, >>>>but hard or impossible for computers. >>>> >>>>The programmers of the top chess programs have invested little effort to change >>>>this for the simple reason that such positions are relatively rare and the net >>>>effect of trying to deal with such positions would only serve to weaken their >>>>programs. >>>> >>>>I would not be surprised if the CCC membership could easily devise a test >>>>consisting of 10 positions, which virtually any strong human would solve 10 of >>>>10 and the top programs would solve 0 of 10. >>>> >>>>BTW, please ignore my other post in this thread. I unintentionally hit submit >>>>without writing anything. Sorry. >>> >>>You are definitely right. >>>That's why I said "exhibition variations on the Turing test". >>>They were talking about playing whole games, not special test positions. >>>And we know that the computers are getting close here. >>> >>>I'm talking about an "exhibition". >> >>Okay. Now I understand. > > >I still agree with Ricardo. Computers do things that no human would >consider. One game? It _might_ pass. Six games? Not a chance. I know your opinion about this and I'm sure you're right for now. But see the related prophesy I am about to post, that will be harder to argue with...
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