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Subject: Re: Turing tested at last?

Author: Hermano Ecuadoriano

Date: 10:24:26 11/19/00

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On November 19, 2000 at 11:42:04, Mike S. wrote:

>On November 19, 2000 at 11:05:41, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On November 19, 2000 at 10:25:21, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote:
>>
>>>There has been some discussion here about holding some
>>>"exhibition" variations on the Turing test.
>>>This must be done eventually.
>>>If successful, it would be epoch-making.
>>>I think the year 2001 is fantastically apropo,
>>>promotionally speaking!
>>
>>I don't think any of the top computer programs can come close to passing a
>>turing test. (...)
>>
>>I would not be surprised if the CCC membership could easily devise a test
>>consisting of 10 positions, which virtually any strong human would solve 10 of
>>10 and the top programs would solve 0 of 10.
>
>Probably possible, but this would not be a Turing test (at least not compliant
>to the definition I remember). A it was just discussed below, referring to an
>announcement of Ed Schröder regarding computer games against GM v.d.Wiel, this
>would be a test by watching a game (live or afterwards) without knowing which of
>the players if the human and which one is the computer.
>
>It would indeed be interesting to see, if chess experts can determine this...
>Did computerchess catch up with science fiction in this respect? As Hermano
>indicates by *2001*, playing chess like HAL is different than "just" playing
>very strong like i.e. Deep Blue:

See, utilizing journalistic license, the program could be promoted
as a "HAL", that is, something more than just a cold mechanism.
I know, HAL became mentally ill in the movie.
Well, come to think of it, apropo again in this context!


>
>http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/Hal/chap5.java/five1.html
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl
>
>
>P.S. If someone wants to try it:
>http://x56.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=657997698&CONTEXT=974605131.1065680911&hitnum=0



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