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Subject: Re: strongest program

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 16:45:01 11/19/00

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On November 19, 2000 at 18:42:35, Ed Schröder wrote:

>These turbo-kits were great indeed and I still have a few somewhere
>perhaps lying under some dust in the attic. But I don't understand
>your remark on Hegener & Glaser. The Lang-Schroder-Morsch policy you
>describe is true but that did not mean they provided a turbo-kit
>for me for each WCCM. I had no complaints.

why should H+G provide a turbo kit for you ?
their interest is/was in selling EXPENSIVE dedicated chess computers
such as Amsterdam/Dallas/Roma...68000/68020/68030.

Rebel/MM4/MM5/Polgar etc. etc.

costed only 498,- or 598,- or 798,- DM.
you were in charge for the middle-class machines.
Frans was for the 198,- / 298,- DM / 398,- machines.

with the Richard Lang machines, they were able to sell 1999,- and even more.

this was the upper-class / high-end-class.

With bringing MM4/5 or Polgar with a Turbo-Kit from
the middle-class into upper-class , schaetzle and bsteh ruined the whole
concept they (H+G) developed to get the most out of the market.

cause the 1600,- DM or was it 1900,- don't remember anymore ?!
have to be paid for the turbo-kit, and only 498,- for the MM4-machine.
this way the big amount of money was transferred to another company
than H+G.

In the moment the turbo-kit was on top, ssdf "decided" to throw them
out of the list.

>I don't know why SSDF decided the remove the Turbo-Kits from the
>list,

no.

>I am sure Mr. Hegener liked it for the reason you describe

?!?!?

Mr. Hegener liked to get 1600-1900 DM less money per unit ?
aha, interesting. now we know why H+G got bancrott.


>but that doesn't mean he was involved in that. Saying such a thing
>without evidence would be slander.
>
>Ed

of course.
and do you know WHY nobody knows why the ssdf did it ?
Because they had an interest not to explain their behaviour in a better
way than they did in those years.

slander again. right.
but nobody needs evidence when it is obvious whose INTERESTS have to be
made real.

tell me your interests and i tell you why you do what you do.

i can tell you e.g. why christian liebert published the thuringen tournament
where gambit-tiger ran on a 500 Mhz machine !!
it's obvious. because deep-fritz and junior participated on fast machines,
the tournament was important for christian, since he works for computerschach
and spiele and computerschach and spiele is owned by mr. frederic friedel.

tell me your interests and i tell you why you do what you do.


one does not need to be nostradamus. its enough to count 1+1 together.

junior wins in thueringen, df participated too, both on fast machines,
while the biggest concurrent in a 7 round swiss tournament is:
as we all know: GAMBIT-TIGER not Rebel-Tiger, runs on a 500 Mhz machine
and plays strange book moves.

and the result is: junior wins and CSS has its big article.

next thing that will happen:

junior and df will be sold in the christmas business.

they need champions, wins, trophys.

fair competition ? never heard of this .

i remember when they tested CSTal in thuringen, on cyrix cpu's.

and you even get the right answer: if you want to win
next time, send fast hardware to thuringen, dear companies.

aha !

if one sends fast hardware to somebody , the results get better !

very good method.





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