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Subject: Re: strongest program

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:09:16 11/19/00

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On November 19, 2000 at 19:45:01, Thorsten Czub wrote:
<snipped>
>tell me your interests and i tell you why you do what you do.
>
>i can tell you e.g. why christian liebert published the thuringen tournament
>where gambit-tiger ran on a 500 Mhz machine !!
>it's obvious. because deep-fritz and junior participated on fast machines,
>the tournament was important for christian, since he works for computerschach
>and spiele and computerschach and spiele is owned by mr. frederic friedel.

I disagree.

If this was the case he could only publish the names of the programs without
publishing the hardware.

He also could not be sure that faster hardware will help to win and there are a
lot of examples when programs with slower hardware won tournaments.

You said in the past that the fact that Fritz can use more processors is not
important because it can only help it to see the draw scores faster.

Did you change your mind about it?

Do you think that Deep fritz or Deep Junior is the best for people who have
machine with more than one processor?


>
>tell me your interests and i tell you why you do what you do.
>
>
>one does not need to be nostradamus. its enough to count 1+1 together.
>
>junior wins in thueringen, df participated too, both on fast machines,
>while the biggest concurrent in a 7 round swiss tournament is:
>as we all know: GAMBIT-TIGER not Rebel-Tiger, runs on a 500 Mhz machine
>and plays strange book moves.

I do not know it.
The programmer does not know it and he said that both programs are at the same
level.

I understood from Jeroen that Gambittiger is better but not with the commercial
book that was build for tiger13 and not for gambittiger.

<snipped>
>they need champions, wins, trophys.
>
>fair competition ? never heard of this .

It is impossible to do fair competition
Equal hardware is also never fair.

If you use equal hardware of one processor Deep Fritz is going to
suffer(remember that part of the programming of Fritz was to make it able to use
more than one processor and without this effort it is possible that they could
create a better engine).

If you use equal hardware with more than one processor programs like tiger that
can use only one processor are going to suffer  because people with machines
with only one processor are more interested in the results when all program use
one processor.

I am satisfied with the fact that we know about the hardware of the players.

Uri



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