Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:36:28 11/20/00
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On November 20, 2000 at 10:50:05, Bob Durrett wrote: >On November 20, 2000 at 02:57:13, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On November 19, 2000 at 20:46:48, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>We are indeed seeing the new upcoming generation of chess programs (ready for >>>2001) losing many games to the outgoing generation (2000). >>> And during the past year, we have often seen, even many games sometimes being >>>won by the 1999 program aginst a 2000 one. >>> But normally the newer generation wins slightly more. Maybe that is largely >>>because they were tested over and over again, to make sure of that, before they >>>were ever released. >>> But how about testing 2001 programs against 1999 ones. Can we be sure that >>>2001 would win a vast majority, or even more important, atleast, never be >>>convincingly beaten, even if it has to lose the occasional game (against a 1999 >>>version)? >>> Hiarcs, by the way, as far as I understand, is a 1998 program. 7.0, 7.01, and >>>7.32 are the exact same program, and it still holds its own quite well today (it >>>would even be compatible with 2001), but it's getting on the lower end, whereas >>>in 1998 it was on the top of many rating lists. >>> But how is this exactly? and with 1999 in general? >>>Maybe Hiarcs 7.** will not be rendered helpless, even by the top programs in >>>2005! >>>S.Taylor >> >>Say H7 currently is rated 2500 and H7-2005 is rated 2650. A 2650 >>rated player so now and then will lose from a 2500 player. Nothing >>special. >> >>Ed > >My understanding is that the 2650 ratings are only for fast quad processor >computers. The earlier versions [1999] may have been rated using slower single >processor computers. Comparing apples and oranges. My understanding is that Ed did not claim that there is 2650 rating for programs of today. He did not express an opinion about it. He claimed that 2500 players have practical chances to win games against 2650 players and also that the situation of old programs against new programs is similiar to the situation of 2500 players against 2650 players. Uri
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