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Subject: Re: Possible computer cheater? Or just very lucky in two games?

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 11:44:49 11/20/00

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I don't know about the tactics in the games he won, but in the game he lost he
was flailing wildly and lost a bunch of stuff in human fashion, and in one of
the games he won, the KQ vs K at the end is a human on the stronger side.

bruce

On November 20, 2000 at 08:51:22, Peter Skinner wrote:

>Here is the person's history on FICS, and as you can see, he is NOT a very
>strong player:
>
>                  Opponent      Type         ECO End Date
>48: - 1515 W 1859 Jasiaaa       [ br  8   0] D00 Res Sun Nov 19, 09:29 CST 2000
>49: - 1511 B 1715 nyknick       [ br  2  12] C00 Res Sun Nov 19, 10:23 CST 2000
>50: + 1520 W 1529 objna         [ br  5  10] A40 Fla Sun Nov 19, 20:10 CST 2000
>51: - 1514 B 1642 Thorax        [ br  2   4] C00 Res Sun Nov 19, 21:17 CST 2000
>52: - 1506 W 1509 NinthPawn     [ br  2  12] A43 Res Sun Nov 19, 21:27 CST 2000
>53: - 1546 B    0 BOOOO         [ lu  1   0] A13 Fla Sun Nov 19, 21:34 CST 2000
>54: - 2035 W 2525 LilKikr       [ sr 15   1] D00 Res Mon Nov 20, 03:50 CST 2000
>55: = 2114 B 2518 LilKikr       [ sr 15   1] A77 Rep Mon Nov 20, 04:18 CST 2000
>56: + 2264 W 2504 LilKikr       [ sr 15   1] D18 Mat Mon Nov 20, 04:56 CST 2000
>57: + 2305 W 2108 NotSoCrafty   [ sr 15   0] E10 Fla Mon Nov 20, 05:20 CST 2000
>
>Now notice that he was unable to beat another 1500 blitz player in a 2 12 game,
>which might as well be a "standard" game over ICS as it can last forever, yet
>was able to record a 2-1-1 record vs computers....
>
>Here are the games, even the one my computer won...
>
>[Event ""]
>[Site ""]
>[Date "2000.11.20"]
>[Round ""]
>[White "???"]
>[Black "LilKikr"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[WhiteElo "2047"]
>[BlackElo "2524"]
>[Opening "D00 Queen's Pawn: Stonewall Attack"]
>
>{Time control = 15 1 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
>1.d4 d5 2.e3 Nf6 3.Bd3 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.f4 Bg4 6.Nf3 e6 7.Nbd2 Qc7 8.h3 Bh5 9.O-O
>Bd6 10.b3 cxd4
>11.cxd4 O-O 12.g4 Nb4 13.Bxh7+ Nxh7 14.gxh5 Qc3 15.Ba3 Qxe3+ 16.Kh1 Qxf4 17.Qe2
>Nf6 {
>jkoss resigns} 0-1
>
>[Event ""]
>[Site ""]
>[Date "2000.11.20"]
>[Round ""]
>[White "LilKikr"]
>[Black "???"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[WhiteElo "2525"]
>[BlackElo "2035"]
>[Opening "A77 Benoni: Classical, 9...Re8, 10.Nd2"]
>
>{Time control = 15 1 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 g6 6.e4 d6 7.Nf3 Bg7 8.Be2 O-O 9.O-O
>Re8 10.Nd2
>a6 11.a4 b6 12.f3 Nbd7 13.Nc4 Ne5 14.Nxe5 Rxe5 15.Bc4 Nd7 16.Bf4 Re8 17.Qd2 Ne5
>18.Bb3 Qh4
>19.Ne2 h6 20.Bg3 Qh5 21.Be1 Nd7 22.Qc2 Bb7 23.Bc3 Re7 24.Bxg7 Kxg7 25.Nf4 Qg5
>26.g3 Ne5
>27.Qc3 b5 28.axb5 axb5 29.Rxa8 b4 30.Qe3 Bxa8 31.Ra1 Bb7 32.Ra7 Qf6 33.Kg2 Kh7
>34.Qe2 c4
>35.Ba4 Bc8 36.Ra8 Rc7 37.Bc2 Qh8 38.Ra1 b3 39.Bd1 g5 40.Nh5 Nd3 41.e5 Nxe5
>42.Rc1 Kg6 43.g4
>f5 44.h3 Rc5 45.Ra1 Rxd5 46.Ra7 Bd7 47.f4 fxg4 48.Rxd7 gxh3+ 49.Kxh3 Rd3+ 50.Kg2
>Qa8+ 51.Kf2
>Qh1 52.Rg7+ Kf5 53.fxe5 Qh2+ 54.Kf1 Qh1+ 55.Kf2 Qh2+ 56.Kf1 Qh1+ 57.Kf2 { Game
>drawn by
>repetition} 1/2-1/2
>
>[Event ""]
>[Site ""]
>[Date "2000.11.20"]
>[Round ""]
>[White "???"]
>[Black "LilKikr"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[WhiteElo "2114"]
>[BlackElo "2518"]
>[Opening "D19 QGD Slav: Dutch Variation"]
>
>{Time control = 15 1 Engine book(s): ct.tbk }
>1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.Nc3 dxc4 5.a4 Bf5 6.e3 e6 7.Bxc4 Bb4 8.O-O Nbd7
>9.Qe2 Bg6 10.Bd2
>O-O 11.Ne4 Bxd2 12.Nexd2 Qc7 13.Rac1 Bh5 14.b4 e5 15.dxe5 Nxe5 16.Rfd1 Rad8
>17.h3 Nxc4
>18.Qxc4 Rd6 19.g4 Bg6 20.Nb3 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Be4 22.Nfd4 Bd5 23.Qc2 Ne4 24.Nf5 Rc8
>25.Nbd4
>Ng5 26.f4 Nxh3+ 27.Kh2 Ng5 28.Nb5 cxb5 29.Qxc7 Rxc7 30.fxg5 Rd7 31.Rxd5 Rxd5
>32.Ne7+ Kf8
>33.Nxd5 bxa4 34.Kg3 a3 35.Nc3 f6 36.gxf6 gxf6 37.Kf4 Kf7 38.b5 Kg6 39.Na2 h6
>40.Nb4 a6 41.b6
>Kf7 42.Kf5 a5 43.Na2 Ke7 44.Kg6 Kd6 45.Kxf6 Kd5 46.Nc1 Kc4 47.Ke5 Kc3 48.Kd5 a4
>49.Kc5 Kd2
>50.Na2 Kc2 51.Nb4+ Kb2 52.Kb5 Kc3 53.Kxa4 Kc4 54.Kxa3 Kc5 55.Kb3 Kxb6 56.Nd5+
>Kc5 57.Ne7
>Kd6 58.Nf5+ Ke5 59.Nxh6 Kf6 60.e4 Kg5 61.e5 Kxh6 62.e6 Kg7 63.g5 Kf8 64.g6 Ke7
>65.g7 Kxe6
>66.g8Q+ Kd6 67.Qc4 b5 68.Qxb5 Ke6 69.Kc4 Kf6 70.Kd4 Ke6 71.Qc5 Kf6 72.Ke4 Ke6
>73.Qc6+ Kf7
>74.Ke5 Kg7 75.Kf5 Kf7 76.Qd7+ Kf8 77.Kf6 Kg8 78.Qg7# { LilKikr checkmated} 1-0
>
>I am blocking out his name, as I am not totally sure, but I doubt that I am
>wrong in the fact this "person" cheated. He is also a former admin of FICS, so
>it is actually very doubtful they will do anything to him if proven to be
>guilty. By his history, you can tell he is a weak player, yet it rated 800
>points higher in standard games, but is not established. His previous best in
>standard was 1905.. but has not been at that level since 1998.
>
>What do you think?
>
>Btw, Lilikr(C) is a Rebel Tiger II on a PIII 500 using 96m hash tables, and
>regular book. In the draw, and loss, my Tiger was really never ahead..



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