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Subject: Re: Possible computer cheater? Or just very lucky in two games?

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 15:20:37 11/20/00

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On November 20, 2000 at 15:25:00, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On November 20, 2000 at 14:42:46, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>I don't think this kind of thing is fair.  What's fair for a human is fair for a
>>computer, and what is cheating against a human is cheating against a computer.
>
>No, I don't think you can equate human players and computer programs. They don't
>play the game in a similar fashion. An example would be simple OTB manners as
>resigning a lost position or accepting draws.
>
>The only "purpose" for computer on a chess server is to play games. It doesn't
>care if it's playing another computer or a human being, so it can't be cheated
>by any definition of the word.
>
>The only one with a grudge is the operator and he/she isn't playing and
>therefore irrelevant IMHO. Some operators take themselves and their toy too
>seriously.

If someone uses a computer to cheat against a computer account, it's no
different than if they use a computer to cheat against a human account.  The
owner of the computer account expects to be playing against one player, and
instead he plays against a player of different strength and characteristics.

And if human players can exclude computer players from their formula, computer
players should be able to do likewise.

It doesn't matter if the computer account has feelings or not, it belongs to
somebody, and that somebody has certain rights and deserved to be treated with
an obvious level of respect.

My car has no feelings, but if someone beats the hell out of it with a stick,
they are going to get a big load from me, and the cops are coming.

bruce

>
>>I don't claim that the human cheated in these games, I don't know.
>
>I don't claim that the human didn't cheat in these games, I don't think it's
>relevant. It isn't because I condone cheating, but I believe in keeping a sense
>of proportion.
>
>Mogens.



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