Author: Andrew Dados
Date: 15:45:03 11/20/00
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On November 20, 2000 at 18:25:21, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On November 20, 2000 at 03:02:48, Andrew Dados wrote: > >>On November 19, 2000 at 20:11:59, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>>On November 19, 2000 at 10:25:21, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote: >>> >>>>There has been some discussion here about holding some >>>>"exhibition" variations on the Turing test. >>>> >>>>This must be done eventually. >>>>If successful, it would be epoch-making. >>>> >>>>I think the year 2001 is fantastically apropo, >>>>promotionally speaking! >>> >>>I will look this up later, but until then, does anyone know of a good definition >>>of the Turing test? I would prefer Turing's. >>> >>>Is it posted on the web someplace? >>> >>>bruce >> >>Btw.. a computer program passed 'composer' Turing test a few years ago. A piece >>written by a program was performed against original Bach piece. All the audience >>knew was that one of the two was written by a human and the other by a computer. >>Majority of spectators decided computer's composition was genuine Bach. >> >>The program was sort of neural network fed with several hundreds of genuine Bach >>to train on.... >> >>-Andrew- >> >>P.S. I always suspected J.S.Bach was not a human...:) > >I printed out the article. It is pretty dense stuff, and it's 26 pages long, so >I haven't gotten through it yet. > >I would think that faking Bach would be pretty easy. > >Imagine faking latin text. I think you could do this pretty easily, if your >audience couldn't speak Latin. You can make something that looks Latin enough, >by taking Latin text, partially digesting it, and vomiting it back out. A >friend of mine made a program that did this, and he barfed Latin all over us. > >This sounds similar to the Bach thing. > >bruce I didn't say chess was easier then faking music or other art. Most people will probably think differently. And it can be that faking a 1600 elo player is harder to do then faking a GM. -Andrew-
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