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Subject: Re: Possible computer cheater? Or just very lucky in two games?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:00:56 11/21/00

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On November 21, 2000 at 01:04:32, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 20, 2000 at 21:57:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 20, 2000 at 19:30:46, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On November 20, 2000 at 19:03:48, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>>>Btw, do you check comp-comp games for illegal human intervention?
>>>
>>>I don't particularly care what people do these days.  I just get flabbergasted
>>>when I hear people say that it's OK to fire up the ol' comp when you play a comp
>>>account, because that's only fair since otherwise it would beat you.  Of course
>>>it's going to beat you, it's rated hundreds of points higher.  Or when people
>>>say that they have a right to abuse any computer, since the computers are part
>>>of what they are paying for when they join ICC.  This makes as much sense has
>>>them saying that they have the right to abuse any human player, since they've
>>>paid their fifty bucks.
>>>
>>>It's very hard to tell if someone is cheating with a human in computer vs
>>>computer games, but if I knew it was happening, I would be bothered.  If I'm
>>>going to play a computer, I should be playing a computer.
>>>
>>>I watched an exhibition game between a computer and an IM, and the operator of
>>>the computer started moving very quickly when the human ran low on time, even
>>>though he had a lot himself.  I thought this was a case of human intervention,
>>>and it bothered me at the time.
>>>
>>>Odd things have happened at other times, as well.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>
>>This might or might not be a case of operator intervention.  IE Mike Byrne
>>wrote a time allocation module for Crafty that would do just this.  As the
>>opponent got lower on time, Crafty would move faster to keep the pressure
>>up, by not giving the opponent long 'thinks' on crafty's clock.
>>
>>I fiddle with it every now and then but in general, I don't use it very much
>>since I don't like the 'concept' particularly.
>
>It was some guy running WChess manually.  He did a lot of weird things and
>eventually got banned.  I can't remember what he did, but I remember being
>really mad at the time.
>
>bruce


I remember that case...  vaguely...  I never understood exactly what he did,
but a lot of people were really PO'd at him for doing it.  :)



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