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Subject: Re: Wrong in this position!

Author: Oliver Roese

Date: 21:41:00 11/21/00

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On November 21, 2000 at 14:56:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 21, 2000 at 14:45:13, Oliver Roese wrote:
>
>>On November 21, 2000 at 03:25:00, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>[D]8/8/2Kp4/3P1B2/2P2k2/5p2/8/8 w - - bm Bc8; id "WAC.146";
>>>
>>>Searched Move: b6+
>>>Right = 1/2 Stime = 10.9 Total NPS = 429381 <time_sq> = 120 <depth> = 20
>>>
>>>White to Move  Book Move(s): Bc8
>>>  Test Position:  "WAC.146"
>>>  1.   2.46     0    78031   1. Bh3
>>>  1.   2.52     0    78036   1. Be6
>>>  1.   2.54     0    78037   1. Bd7
>>>  1.   2.54     0    78051   1. Bd7
>>>  2.   2.53     0    78062   1. Bd7 Ke5
>>>  2.   ++       0    78134   1. Bh7
>>>  2.   1.82     0    78343   1. Bd7 f2
>>>  2.   2.51     0    78365   1. Be6 Ke5
>>>  2.   2.52     0    78424   1. Bd3 Ke3
>>>  2.   2.52     0    78496   1. Bd3 Ke3
>>>  3.   2.55     0    78525   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. Bf5
>>>  3.   ++       0    78826   1. Bh7
>>>  3.   2.55     0    79404   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. Bf5
>>>  3.   2.55     0    80628   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. Bf5
>>>  4.   2.64     0    80953   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. c5 dxc5
>>>  4.   2.64     0    83123   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. c5 dxc5
>>>  5.   2.54     0    84780   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. Bf5 Kf4 3. Bd7
>>>  5.   ++       0    91118   1. Bc8
>>>  5.   --
>>>  5.   2.54     0    94138   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. Bf5 Kf4 3. Bd7
>>>  5.   5.87     0    99653   1. Bc8 f2 2. Bh3 Kg3 3. Bf1
>>>  5.   5.87     0   116910   1. Bc8 f2 2. Bh3 Kg3 3. Bf1
>>>  6.   --
>>>  6.   ++       0   117724   1. Bc8
>>>  6.   5.87     0   118439   1. Bc8 f2 2. Bh3 Kg3 3. Bf1 Kf4
>>>  6.   5.87     0   161237   1. Bc8 f2 2. Bh3 Kg3 3. Bf1 Kf4
>>>  7.   5.87     0   165796   1. Bc8 f2 2. Bh3 Ke3 3. Bf1 Kd4
>>>  7.   ++       0   186436   1. Bh3
>>>  7.   --
>>>  7.   5.87     0   191756   1. Bc8 f2 2. Bh3 Kg3 3. Bf1 Kf4 4. Kxd6
>>>  7.   6.64     0   212491   1. Bh3 Kg3 2. Bf1 Kf2 3. Kxd6 Ke1 4. Bh3
>>>  7.   6.64     0   212520   1. Bh3 Kg3 2. Bf1 Kf2 3. Kxd6 Ke1 4. Bh3
>>>  8.   --
>>>  8.   ++       0   221385   1. Bh3
>>>  8.   6.45     0   223648   1. Bh3 Kg3 2. Bf1 Kf2 3. Kxd6 Ke1 4. Bh3 f2
>>>  8.   6.45     0   223732   1. Bh3 Kg3 2. Bf1 Kf2 3. Kxd6 Ke1 4. Bh3 f2
>>>  9.   6.45     0   232656   1. Bh3 Kg3 2. Bf1 Kf2 3. Kxd6 Ke1 4. Bh3 f2 5. c5
>>>  9.   ++       0   264037   1. Bd3
>>>  9.   8.88     0   295723   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. c5 dxc5 3. d6 Kd2 4. d7 c4 5. d8=Q
>>>  9.   8.88     0   304900   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. c5 dxc5 3. d6 Kd2 4. d7 c4 5. d8=Q
>>> 10.   ++       0   314109   1. Bd3
>>> 10.  14.23     1   495219   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. c5 Kd4 3. cxd6 Kc3 4. d7 Kd2 5. d8=Q
>>>Ke3
>>> 10.  14.23     1   525349   1. Bd3 Ke3 2. c5 Kd4 3. cxd6 Kc3 4. d7 Kd2 5. d8=Q
>>>Ke3
>>> 11.   ++       1   529553   1. Bd3
>>> 11.  16.49     6  1363057   1. Bd3 Kg3 2. c5 Kf4 3. cxd6 Ke5 4. d7 Kf4 5. d8=Q
>>>Ke3
>>> 11.  16.49     6  1393518   1. Bd3 Kg3 2. c5 Kf4 3. cxd6 Ke5 4. d7 Kf4 5. d8=Q
>>>Ke3
>>> 12.   ++       6  1402113   1. Bd3
>>> 12.  MATE+    33  9555958   1. Bd3 f2 2. c5 Ke3 3. cxd6 Kxd3
>>> 12.  MATE+    33  9738198   1. Bd3 f2 2. c5 Ke3 3. cxd6 Kxd3
>>>
>>>node_count = 9738198 quiescent nodes = 10482 eval_count = 4534996
>>>hash hits = 2251420 hash moves = 342378 pawn hash hits = 4522278
>>>node_rate = 290779 null cuts = 935545 exten = 747422 int_iter = 120
>>>egtb_probes = 267932 egtb_hits = 267932 fail_high(%) = 93
>>
>>After 1.Bd3 black can force a repetition of the position with
>>1...Ke3 2.Bf1 Kf2 3.Bh3 Kg3 4.Bf5 Kf4 (all forced) and white should soon come up
>>with a better idea...
>>
>>Oliver
>
>When I play the above move, I get a mate score from crafty.  ie:
>
>after Bd3, ...
>         (4)   17->  51.30 -Mat40   1. ... Ke3 2. Bf1 Kf2 3. c5 Kxf1 4.
>                                    cxd6 <HT>
>
>(which comes from tablebases of course...)
>
>Kf2 then leads to a mate in 39...
>
>3. Bh3 is not the move for white however... that leads to a repetition.  white
>plays c5 to stay on the track to mating...  Bh3 will also mate, but only after
>going through the 2-fold repetition first, and wasting time...

I apologize if i was wrong here, but i just cant get it.
I saw 3.c5, but after 3...Kxf1 4.cxd6 f2 5.d7 K(e2) 6.d8=Q f1=Q a queen-ending
with a pawn up for white follows. Could you (or Bruce Morland) give some further
moves of the best line? Is it  a forced queen swap or what??
If white simply waits for ...f2 with 1.Bc8 black will never get a queen.
It is really hard to believe...

Oliver







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