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Subject: Re: Simple Endgame for programs without TBs ??

Author: Roland Pfister

Date: 00:37:33 11/22/00

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On November 21, 2000 at 20:05:03, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 21, 2000 at 18:27:28, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>[D]8/2K5/1p6/1P4k1/5p2/8/6P1/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Here a correct analysis:
>>
>>1. Kc6 Kg4 2. Kd6 Kh4 3. Ke6 Kg5 4. Ke5 Kg4 5. Kf6 Kh4 6. Kf5 Kg3 7. Kg5 f3 8.
>>gxf3 Kxf3 9. Kf5 ++-
>>
>>1.Kxb6 is draw.
>>
>>By me this winning only Fritz, without TBs !
>>
>>Eduard
>
>This implies that Fritz understand KQ vs KP with an f-pawn.  Understand of this
>position used to be included in one of the commonly used test suites, so perhaps
>this is why Fritz understands this.
>
>If someone wants to do some Fritz archaeology, they may be interested in
>figuring out which version of Fritz introduced this knowledge.
>
>Surely it can't be doing it with search.  It's very easy to take this to
>queening, and that's +8 or so.  In order to win for real, you have to prefer the
>position with the k-side pawns gone and the white king a ways away from the
>q-side pawns.
>
>bruce

Patzer has the knowledge of KQ-KP with f-pawn. So it promotes to a rook :-)
in iterations 9 to 12. But search seems to solve the problem.

I did not build in the necessary KR-KP knowledge because at that time
the TBs were already available ...

Neue Stellung
8/2K5/1p6/1P4k1/5p2/8/6P1/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Patzer 3.11a:

...
1.Kxb6 Kh4 2.Kc7 Kg3 3.b6 Kxg2 4.b7 f3 5.b8T f2 6.Tg8+
  +-  (2.96)   Tiefe: 9   00:00:00  51kN
1.Kxb6
  +-  (3.87)   Tiefe: 10   00:00:00  82kN
1.Kxb6 Kh4 2.Kc5 Kg3 3.b6 Kxg2 4.b7 f3 5.b8T f2 6.Tg8+ Kf3 7.Tf8+
  +-  (3.87)   Tiefe: 11   00:00:01  163kN
1.Kxb6 Kh4 2.Kc5 Kg3 3.b6 Kxg2 4.b7 f3 5.b8T f2 6.Tg8+ Kf3 7.Tf8+ Ke2
  +-  (3.87)   Tiefe: 12   00:00:02  379kN
1.Kxb6 Kh4
  +-  (2.78)   Tiefe: 13   00:00:04  613kN
1.Kxb6 Kh4 2.Kc5 Kg3 3.b6 Kxg2 4.b7 f3
  +-  (2.35)   Tiefe: 13   00:00:07  864kN
1.Kxb6 Kh4
  ²  (0.56)   Tiefe: 14   00:00:14  1805kN
1.Kd7 Kf5 2.Kd6 Kf6 3.Kd5
  +-  (2.18)   Tiefe: 14   00:00:14  1862kN
1.Kc6
  +-  (2.96)   Tiefe: 14   00:00:15  1899kN
1.Kc6 Kg4 2.Kd6 Kf5 3.Kd5 Kf6 4.Ke4 Kg5 5.Ke5 Kg4 6.Kf6 Kh4 7.Kf5 Kg3
  +-  (3.00)   Tiefe: 15   00:00:15  1994kN
1.Kc6 Kg4 2.Kd6 Kf5 3.Kd5 Kf6 4.Ke4 Kg5 5.Ke5 Kg4 6.Kf6 Kh4 7.Kf5
  +-  (3.09)   Tiefe: 16   00:00:18  2344kN
1.Kc6 Kg4 2.Kd6 Kf5 3.Kd5 Kf6 4.Ke4 Kg5 5.Ke5 Kg4 6.Kf6 Kh4 7.Kf5 Kg3 8.Kg5
  +-  (3.15)   Tiefe: 17   00:00:23  3180kN

Roland



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