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Subject: Re: Another WAC bust

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 10:51:42 11/22/00

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On November 22, 2000 at 00:51:55, Sam Slutzky wrote:

>On November 21, 2000 at 03:38:39, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>In any case, b7 must be added.  Any move that provably leads to checkmate is
>>just as good or better than any other choice.
>>
>>The EPD test suite must be amended.  If your program chooses b7, that is a
>>correct choice.
>
>I'm not entirely in agreement on this.  It would seem to be that the shortest
>mate is actually the proper solution to the problem although, of course, any
>mate will win.  Likewise, in a mate-in-x problem, if a program doesn't find
>mate, but still plays a clearly winning move, it has not really solved the
>problem although it is certain to win.  In an extreme case (as in some tablebase
>cases), a longer mate may actually be a draw due to the fifty-move rule.  It's
>all semantics really, but I don't see that everyone needs to update their test
>suites in these cases.
>

Most chess programs that are not also mate solvers do not find the shortest mate
on a huge number of chess problems.  Any move that leads directly and certainly
to a certain checkmate is a best move, by any sense of the word "best" in my
opinion.

I suspect that with one hundred checkmate positions chosen at random found by
chess playing programs, Chest by Heiner Marxen will find shorter mates with
surprising frequency.  I have used Chest to find shorter mates in many, many
instances in the CAP database.



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