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Subject: Re: Beta -Testing Proficiency in Rebel Tiger Case

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 13:36:44 11/22/00

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On November 22, 2000 at 14:09:59, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 22, 2000 at 12:30:31, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On November 22, 2000 at 11:51:17, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Fernando,
>>>I can only tell you there are many problems with all programs.  None of them are
>>>perfect.  As a beta tester you can only report what you find.  There are
>>>literally hundreds of special positions which many programs do not understand.
>>>Tablebases will cure many of these problems but not all.  The programmers are
>>>aware of many of the shortcomings of their programs.  They make the decision if
>>>it is important enough to fix or forget.  I guess they only have so many hours
>>>in a day and they have to decide what is most important at the moment.
>>>Jim
>>
>>OK, Jim, but you must concur with me that B+N mate is not just one problem
>>between many, but a clasic kind of position every current program must solve
>*****
>I agree!  I remember when David Kittinger took the B+N mate info out of the
>Forte computer (It was in it's predecessor the Super Constellation).  I asked
>him why and he said he needed the memory for something else.  I never bought
>another Novag computer after that.
>*******
>
>and
>>every tester must look at as a matter of fact. The same with:
>>a) king + pawn againts King
>>b) King + Rook againts King
>>c) King+ pawn in the h or a file
>>d) oposition rule
>>e) king +queen against king +rook
>>... And maybe some more. I think that these kind of situations should be tested
>>as a minimal test of proficiency. Should be kind of a rule of testing
>>operations.
>>Regards
>>fernando
>
>As I said.  Tablebases will fix many of these problems.  I am a very strong
>advocate of tablebases even if their contribution to rating points is minimal.
>But I repeat, the final decision as to what a program will or will not do lies
>with the programmer-_N_O_T_ the beta testers.  Do you believe Christophe does
>not know that Chess Tiger will not mate with a Knight & Bishop?
>Jim

I WANT to believe he just missed it. I do not want to believe he delivered us a
so gorgeous program without THAT and with full knowledege. Like to sell a
Mercedes without one of the wheels.
Fernando



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