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Subject: Re: Is this really correct?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 02:34:37 11/23/00

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On November 23, 2000 at 05:25:43, Shanti wrote:

>Hi
>
>Just to complete the picture the b pawn will be catch by the black king (b6 kd7
>b7 kc7) but then white uses the king side to force a queen. Black is one move
>short since after b8=Q Kxb8 white will queen with a check.

Exactly correct, but you're giving away *all* the ideas! It is better to let
people figure it out for themselves. They learn more that way. This position is
very instructive.

>
>Shanti
>
>On November 23, 2000 at 04:57:53, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On November 23, 2000 at 03:15:48, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>[D]5k2/8/pppppppp/8/PPPPPPPP/8/8/5K2 w - -
>>>
>>>Tim Krabbe in chess curiosities claims, that d5! is winning. He gives
>>>d5 exd5
>>>exd5 cxd5
>>>a5 bxa5
>>>b5 axb5
>>>cxb5 Ke7
>>>b6...
>>>
>>>Is this true? For absolute truth we need 18 piece TBs, so it takes a lot time...
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>Yes. To help get a handle on the position, it is easier to understand the
>>position with the e-pawns removed. In that position, the 4 vs 4 pawn
>>constellation must generate a passed pawn as far on the far side of the board as
>>possible. The rule of thumb to accomplish that is to start the action on the
>>near side first, hence the move d5. The presence of the e-pawns does not
>>significantly affect the play. I annotated this ending in detail here at CCC
>>about a year ago. This position is relatively easy for a human, but hopeless for
>>a computer.



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