Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 11:43:57 11/23/00
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On November 22, 2000 at 16:36:44, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>On November 22, 2000 at 14:09:59, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On November 22, 2000 at 12:30:31, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>
>>>On November 22, 2000 at 11:51:17, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello Fernando,
>>>>I can only tell you there are many problems with all programs. None of them are
>>>>perfect. As a beta tester you can only report what you find. There are
>>>>literally hundreds of special positions which many programs do not understand.
>>>>Tablebases will cure many of these problems but not all. The programmers are
>>>>aware of many of the shortcomings of their programs. They make the decision if
>>>>it is important enough to fix or forget. I guess they only have so many hours
>>>>in a day and they have to decide what is most important at the moment.
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>OK, Jim, but you must concur with me that B+N mate is not just one problem
>>>between many, but a clasic kind of position every current program must solve
>>*****
>>I agree! I remember when David Kittinger took the B+N mate info out of the
>>Forte computer (It was in it's predecessor the Super Constellation). I asked
>>him why and he said he needed the memory for something else. I never bought
>>another Novag computer after that.
>>*******
>>
>>and
>>>every tester must look at as a matter of fact. The same with:
>>>a) king + pawn againts King
>>>b) King + Rook againts King
>>>c) King+ pawn in the h or a file
>>>d) oposition rule
>>>e) king +queen against king +rook
>>>... And maybe some more. I think that these kind of situations should be tested
>>>as a minimal test of proficiency. Should be kind of a rule of testing
>>>operations.
>>>Regards
>>>fernando
>>
>>As I said. Tablebases will fix many of these problems. I am a very strong
>>advocate of tablebases even if their contribution to rating points is minimal.
>>But I repeat, the final decision as to what a program will or will not do lies
>>with the programmer-_N_O_T_ the beta testers. Do you believe Christophe does
>>not know that Chess Tiger will not mate with a Knight & Bishop?
>>Jim
>
>I WANT to believe he just missed it. I do not want to believe he delivered us a
>so gorgeous program without THAT and with full knowledege. Like to sell a
>Mercedes without one of the wheels.
>Fernando
Yes, that's exactly what I did, Fernando.
I'm sorry, but there are other bits of knowledge that I consider as being more
essential than KBN/K, and so I started to add those other bits first.
Christophe
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