Author: Ricardo Gibert
Date: 11:24:35 11/24/00
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On November 24, 2000 at 10:31:03, Ferdinand S. Mosca wrote: >On November 23, 2000 at 03:40:38, Rajendran RAMACHANDRAN wrote: > >>Hi >> >>I have another doubt! >> >>While manually analysing my games...for example with Chessbase 7 with compatible >>engines like Fritz 6, Hiarcs 732, Crafty etc..I find the following.. >> >>1. Hiarcs is very good at finding the best variation in positional approach >>while fritz does it better when there are too many tactical possibilities. >> >>2. When I hold a position on infinite analysis for three to four mins I get >>reasonably good analysis. All that I have to do is to press "control' with space >>to tranfer the best variation at that time as an annotated variation (not text >>variation) in that position. Its nice! But, sometimes when I take the engine >>through the variation towards the end the evaluation changes dramatically. Now >>if the engine is Hiarcs it learns this quickly and when I bring it back through >>the variation and it is very quick to find where exactly to branch for a better >>alternative move! If it is Fritz or friends this takes much longer, may be >>because they erase the hash tables? >> >>Is there any way I can save time ? I wanted to have automatic analysis of whole >>game with multiple lines of analysis done.I can compensate processor power with >>extra time on overnight analysis. Someone helped with suggestion in this forum >>to use Crafty in winboard engine which I could not understand! Is there any >>commercial program that is already doing this? When will chessbase implement >>this feature? >> >>I wish to hear your suggestions...whats the best way to go about this analysis?? >>I wish to hear from chess players who know how to improve one's game! > > >Run your Fritz program (not as engine from the CB7), load your game that you >want to analyze and annotate it by yourself without consulting chess engines. > >Put as many analysis as you can involving bad lines, good lines and best lines >of course according to your own understanding. Save the game, then load your >favorite engine to analyze the whole game using the blunder check option of the >analysis mode. You can set there the engine to analyze your annotation and the >actual move of the game. You can also control how much time will be used by the >engine per move, just calculate for overnight analysis. The most important thing >now is to compare your annotation with that of your favorite engine. Make >conclusions on the game and your understanding in every positions that you have >analyzed. > >Dinan > > Definitely I'm able to confirm from personal experience that this type of exercise is valuable. I have fond memories of doing this when a relatively ideal situation cropped up that I took advantage of. A long ways back when the Karpov-Korchnoi was going on, I would go out and buy a newspaper containing the latest game without anotations. I would anotate these games the best I could (1-4 hours worth!), then on the weekend, the Sunday edition would come out and it would have the anotated version by IM Jack Peters. I would check my anotations against his and I would either equal or exceed what he produced (which was not very good, but then he had to meet a deadline). How did I really know my anotations could be better? Because a little bit later, the Player's Chess News would come out (every 2 weeks then) with *excellent* anotations by GM Larry Christiansen against which I would compare mine again. This time roles would be reversed and his anotations were either similar or better than mine. I learned a lot, because I was getting great feedback and reinforcement. As for using a computer to this, I'm not sure. I would not trust it. In some types of positions, it would be hopeless. Besides, you will not succeed in learning to play like a computer. You *can* succeed in learning how to play like a strong human, so it better to model yourself on their example rather than on a computer. >>not from biased people who promote their friends products! >> >>Thanks in anticipation. >> >>raj
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