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Subject: Re: Tough solution

Author: Stuart Cracraft

Date: 16:49:10 01/14/98

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On January 14, 1998 at 18:24:54, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On January 14, 1998 at 18:07:45, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 1998 at 16:53:06, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>I've red a book chess problem, and find the following position :
>>>
>>>[Event "?"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "??.??.????"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "W"]
>>>[Black "B"]
>>>[Result "*"]
>>>[WhiteElo "?"]
>>>[BlackElo "?"]
>>>[FEN "8/7p/6pP/k4pP1/b1p1pP2/KpPpP3/1P1P4/7Q w - - 0 1"]
>>>
>>>
>>>and the book say :
>>>
>>>If it's white to moves, black are in zugzwang because after :
>>>1.Qd1 B moves 2.Qxc3 cxb3 3.Kxd3 , the 2 passed pawn win for white !!!
>>>I don't understand everything in the position (and I don't blame who
>>>don't understand like me ;)  ).
>>>
>>>I look for someone who can analyse this position with a strong chess
>>>program...
>>>
>>
>>Well, don't know about the "strong", but here's my program's analysis.
>>
>>K2 1/13/98 0.19
>>Type ? for help.
>>Transposition table:  Entries=100K Size=6400K
>>Pawn transposition table:  Entries=31K Size=2000K
>>? set time 60
>>? test solve ../tests/testone.ci
>>60 seconds per problem.
>>lejeune
>>Qd1
>>
>>white
>>. . . . . . . .
>>. . . . . . . p
>>. . . . . . p P
>>k . . . . p P .
>>b . p . p P . .
>>K p P p P . . .
>>. P . P . . . .
>>. . . . . . . Q
>>
>>Phase = Middlegame, Target search time = 60 sec, Root score = 442
>> 1+    0.0    697         3      Qh4
>> 1.    0.0    603        17      Qh4
>> 2-    0.1    431        56      Qh4
>> 2&    0.1    426        64      Qh4 Kb5
>> 2&    0.1    427        78      Qc1 Kb5
>> 2.    0.1    431        86      Qd1 Kb5
>> 3+    0.1    697       161      Qd1
>> 3.    0.1    603       202      Qd1 Kb5 Qa1
>> 4-    0.1    446       266      Qd1
>> 4.    0.1    446       311      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5
>> 5+    0.1    697       531      Qd1
>> 5.    0.1    603       706      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qa1 Kb5
>> 6-    0.1    431       915      Qd1
>> 6&    0.1    430      1160      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5
>> 6.    0.1    430      1414      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qe1 Kb5
>>Qa1
>> 7&    0.2    430      1699      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qe1 Kb5
>>Qa1
>> 7.    0.2    430      1942      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qe1 Kb5
>>Qa1
>> 8&    0.2    434      2571      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qf1
>> 8.    0.2    434      2884      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qf1
>> 9&    0.2    434      3271      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qf1
>> 9.    0.2    434      3688      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qf1
>>10&    0.3    430      4817      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qe1 Kb5
>>Qa1
>>10.    0.4    430     11420      Qd1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qf1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qe1 Kb5
>>Qa1
>>11+    0.9    507     27335      Qd1
>>11.    1.0    503     30122      Qd1 Kb5 Qf1 Ka5 Qh1 Kb5 Qa1 Ka5 Qh1
>>12-    2.2    427     70920      Qd1
>>12&    2.3    425     72688      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Ba6 Qf1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qa1 Kb5
>>Qb1
>>                                 Ka5 Qa1
>>12.    2.3    425     72756      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Ba6 Qf1 Kb5 Qe1 Ka5 Qa1 Kb5
>>Qb1
>>                                 Ka5 Qa1
>>13&    2.8    430     92382      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qe1 Ba4 Qf1 Bb5 Qe1 Be8
>>Qa1
>>                                 Bd7 Qe1 Bb5 Qa1
>>13.    2.9    430     98266      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qe1 Ba4 Qf1 Bb5 Qe1 Be8
>>Qa1
>>                                 Bd7 Qe1 Bb5 Qa1
>>14&    3.4    430    116144      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qe1 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7
>>Qe1
>>                                 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7 Qe1 Bb5
>>14.    6.6    430    214074      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qe1 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7
>>Qe1
>>                                 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7 Qe1 Bb5
>>15&    8.2    430    277129      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qe1 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7
>>Qe1
>>                                 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7 Qe1 Be8 Qa1
>>15.   19.7    430    710557      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qe1 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7
>>Qe1
>>                                 Bb5 Qf1 Be8 Qa1 Bd7 Qe1 Be8 Qa1
>>16&   23.8    430    855943      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Ba4 Qh1 Be8 Qf1 Bd7 Qe1 Be8
>>Qb1
>>                                 Bb5 Qa1 Ba4 Qh1
>>16.   41.3    430   1430961      Qd1 Bb5 Qa1 Ba4 Qh1 Be8 Qf1 Bd7 Qe1 Be8
>>Qb1
>>                                 Bb5 Qa1 Ba4 Qh1 Bb5 Qa1
>>17&   49.1    430   1722280      Qd1 Bd7 Qa1 Ba4 Qb1 Bb5 Qe1 Bd7 Qa1 Ba4
>>Qb1
>>                                 Bb5
>>17.   54.6    430   1930188      Qd1 Bd7 Qa1 Ba4 Qb1 Bb5 Qe1 Bd7 Qa1 Ba4
>>Qb1
>>                                 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qb1 Bb5
>>18.   60.0    430   2144013      Qd1 Bd7 Qa1 Ba4 Qb1 Bb5 Qe1 Bd7 Qa1 Ba4
>>Qb1
>>                                 Bb5 Qa1 Be8 Qb1 Bb5
>>
>>My move is : Qd1
>>Time = 60.0 Rate=35730 Nodes=[1536201/607812/2144013]
>>Eval=431520 RptCnt=11112 NullCut=100569
>>Extensions: Check=151557 Recapture=15205 Pawn=135 OneMove=0
>>            Threat=0 DeepSearch=0 Mate=0
>>Material=[1600/1000] Worst=[-1080/97]
>>Hash: Success=26% Collision=66%
>>Hash Counts: ReadHits=446157, ReadProbes=1658921, WriteColl=326019,
>>WriteTries=493572
>>Pawn Hash: Success=98% Collision=12%
>>Pawn Counts: ReadHits=853541, ReadProbes=862338, WriteColl=1095,
>>WriteTries=8797
>>
>>black
>>. . . . . . . .
>>. . . . . . . p
>>. . . . . . p P
>>k . . . . p P .
>>b . p . p P . .
>>K p P p P . . .
>>. P . P . . . .
>>. . . Q . . . .
>>
>>+++  Qd1 Qd1
>>
>>Correct so far: 1 Total problems: 1 Percent: 100%
>>
>>********* Grand totals **********
>>Time = 60.0 Rate=35730 Nodes=[1536201/607812/2144013]
>>EvalCnt=431520 RptCnt=11112 NullCut=100569
>>Extensions: Check=151557 Recapture=15205 Pawn=135 OneMove=0
>>            Threat=0 DeepSearch=0 Mate=0
>>Hash: Success=26% Collision=66%
>>Pawn Hash: Success=98% Collision=12%
>
>
>So your program don't make any progress in the position !?

Nothing that involves a queen sacrifice in 60 seconds.

However, funny that you should send that. I am adding some
passed pawn logic tonight and we'll see if that helps.

--Stuart




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