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Subject: Re: Match on chess.net Gambit Tiger vs Chessmaster 7000 Begins Saturday

Author: Chessfun

Date: 15:06:58 11/24/00

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On November 24, 2000 at 17:58:33, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On November 24, 2000 at 13:15:52, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On November 24, 2000 at 07:35:31, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 24, 2000 at 07:19:42, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 23, 2000 at 20:58:31, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 23, 2000 at 20:38:02, Daniel Chancey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>There will be a 10 game match between Chessmaster 7000 and Gambit Tiger 1.0 on
>>>>>>chess.net Saturday.  The time limit is G/60.  Chessmaster 7000 will use my book
>>>>>>and the personality to be chosen hasn't been decided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Prediction:  Gambit Tiger wins 6-1 with 3 draws
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Questions, comments, concerns?  Please reply or e-mail.  Complaints?  Please
>>>>>>e-mail. (1 complaint will not stop the match this time.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Castle2000
>>>>>
>>>>>Look like I will have to email you 500 times. Just kidding I am interested to
>>>>>see the results. I bet Gambit wins 7-2-1. That is 7 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss.
>>>>
>>>>Looks like ChessMaster is the most underrated program. CM was tested
>>>>once by SSDF and topped after that. Remember? It seems if a program
>>>>does not have auto232 support you don't count.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>I remember it but it was chessmaster6000 and chessmaster7000 is supposed to be a
>>>downgrade because it can use only 1 Mbyte hash tables.
>>>
>>>
>>>I guess that chessmaster7000 is 28 elo worse than chessmaster6000 and if you
>>>consider the fact that chessmaster6000 is probably 100 elo worse than
>>>gambittiger we can expect result that suggest 128 elo difference
>>>7:3 for gambittiger is a good result because it suggests 160 elo difference.
>>>
>>>I do not have chessmaster7000 and my guess about 28 elo is based on the fact
>>>that the ssdf used 16 mbytes for chessmaster6000 and I assume that doubling the
>>>hash tables give 7 elo improvement.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>From what I recall, the SSDF uses machines with 16 MB of RAM, but did NOT change
>>the default hash table size of 1MB. So, I'm going to go out on a limb and
>>predict a LITTLE better result for my home team:
>
>For CM6K I am pretty sure that 16 megs of hash were used, on 64 meg machines
>(just looking back at the current list)
>
>I do not think CM7K was ever even bothered to be tested by the SSDF, and I have
>no idea what he means about chessmaster being downgraded, it was never tested on
>the SSDF with 1 meg of hash.

I assume the meaning is that since the engine is the same as CM6K
running with smaller hash tables will make it weaker than CM6K.

Sarah.





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