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Subject: Re: Gambit Tiger v CM8000: First Impressions and Wish List

Author: John Merlino

Date: 10:44:46 11/25/00

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On November 25, 2000 at 04:21:56, Steve Maughan wrote:

>CM 8000 is now available from Electronics Boutique in the UK.  To test it out I
>thought I’d pit it against Gambit Tiger. It proved to be quite an interesting
>game.  After the opening I thought Gambit Tiger was going to storm the king side
>and win quickly but ChessMaster found a resourceful sacrifice (16... Nxd4!)
>
>[d]1r2r1k1/ppp2ppp/2nq2n1/5Q2/3PB3/4PP2/P2B1P1P/R3K2R b KQ –
>
>From then on ChessMaster took the initiative and looked as if it would win.  At
>one stage ChessMaster and Gambit Tiger thought black had a 3 to 4 pawn
>advantage, including two connected passed pawns.  I played on and to my
>amazement Gambit Tiger clawed its way back.  ChessMaster didn’t managed to get
>its rook begin its pawns and the game ended in a draw; although there were
>moments of excitement right up to the end.  I have a suspicion that some work
>needs to be done on ChessMaster’s / The King’s endgame as Gambit Tiger seemed to
>be consistently out-searching it despite the slower hardware.
>
>Overall my first impressions of ChessMaster are positive.  After the lacklustre
>upgrade of ChessMaster 7000 there is definitely something for the enthusiast in
>the latest package.  The main highlights for me are Winboard support, Visual
>Thinking while in two player mode (at last!!) and of course the latest King
>engine.
>
>My wish list for ChessMaster 8000 patch 1 would be:
>
>1) Ability to select engine in Visual Thinking.  At the moment it is only the
>standard ChessMaster with, I assume, 1 Mb of hash.
>
>2) Deciphering mate score in Visual Thinking i.e. +M5 or +#5 instead of +99.90.
>
>3) Allowing the ChessMaster engine to be used in other application.  I can’t see
>a downside for Mattel – they could even still check for CD.
>
>4) Copy and Paste of EPD and PGN (as in Shredder)
>
>All in all definitely worth the 30 quid!
>
>[Event ""]
>[Site "Durham Riding"]
>[Date "11-25-2000"]
>[Round ""]
>[White "Gambit Tiger (24 Mb of Hash, 450 MHz P2)"]
>[Black "ChessMaster (16 Mb of Hash, 333 MHz K2)"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>
>1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c4 Bg4 4. cxd5 Bxf3 5. gxf3 Qxd5 6. e3 e5 7. Nc3
>Bb4 8. Bd2 Bxc3 9. bxc3 exd4 10. cxd4 Nge7 11. Be2 O-O 12. Qb1 Rab8 13.
>Qe4 Qd6 14. Bd3 Ng6 15. Qf5 Rfe8 16. Be4 Nxd4 17. exd4 Qxd4 18. Rb1 Re5
>19. Be3 Qc3+ 20. Bd2 Qc4 21. Rc1 Qa4 22. Qg4 f5 23. Qh3 Rxe4+ 24. fxe4
>Qxe4+ 25. Be3 Qxh1+ 26. Qf1 Qxf1+ 27. Kxf1 f4 28. Bxa7 Ra8 29. Bd4 Ra4
>30. Rd1 Rxa2 31. Bc3 Rc2 32. Rd8+ Nf8 33. Bb4 c5 34. Bd2 f3 35. Ke1 Rb2
>36. Kd1 Rb3 37. Rc8 b6 38. Kc2 Ra3 39. Rb8 Ra6 40. Rb7 Ne6 41. Kd3 g5
>42. Ke4 h6 43. Kxf3 Kf8 44. Be3 Ke8 45. Ke4 Nd8 46. Rg7 Nf7 47. Rg6 Ra4+
>48. Kd5 Rb4 49. Re6+ Kd8 50. Rf6 Ke7 51. Re6+ Kd7 52. Rf6 Nd8 53. Rxh6
>g4 54. Rh7+ Kc8 55. Rg7 Nb7 56. Rg8+ Kc7 57. Rg7+ Kb8 58. Rf7 Na5 59.
>Bf4+ Kc8 60. Be5 Nb3 61. Bc3 Ra4 62. Kc6 Kd8 63. Kxb6 Ke8 64. Rg7 Rc4
>65. Be5 Re4 66. Bc3 Rf4 67. Kb5 Kf8 68. Rh7 Rxf2 69. Kc4 Nc1 70. Rh8+
>Kf7 71. Rh7+ Kg6 72. Rg7+ Kh5 73. Rh7+ Kg5 74. Rg7+ Kf4 75. Rf7+ Ke3 76.
>Re7+ Kf3 77. Rf7+ Ke2 78. Rd7 Rf5 79. Re7+ Kf3 80. Be5 Rh5 81. Bg3 Ne2
>82. Rf7+ Ke3 83. Bd6 Ke4 84. Rf8 Rh6 85. Re8+ Kf3 86. Kxc5 Rh5+ 87. Kc4
>Rh6 88. Bb8 Ra6 89. Kd5 Ra5+ 90. Kd6 Nd4 91. Rg8 Rf5 92. Ba7 Nb5+ 93.
>Ke6 Rh5 94. Bb8 Nd4+ 95. Kf6 Rf5+ 96. Ke7 Rb5 97. Kd7 Rd5+ 1/2 - 1/2

In general, patches to Chessmaster rarely include new features or enhancements
to existing features (as in your suggestions 1, 3 and 4). However, I suspect
that I can talk the development team into doing #2 for you. NOTE, though, that
the mate score will ONLY be displayed for King engine personalities, as NO
output from XBoard engines is modified. Would that suffice?

jm



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