Author: john watson
Date: 12:24:25 11/25/00
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On November 23, 2000 at 17:34:30, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On November 23, 2000 at 14:43:57, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On November 22, 2000 at 16:36:44, Fernando Villegas wrote: >> >>>On November 22, 2000 at 14:09:59, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On November 22, 2000 at 12:30:31, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hello Fernando, >>>>>>I can only tell you there are many problems with all programs. None of them are >>>>>>perfect. As a beta tester you can only report what you find. There are >>>>>>literally hundreds of special positions which many programs do not understand. >>>>>>Tablebases will cure many of these problems but not all. The programmers are >>>>>>aware of many of the shortcomings of their programs. They make the decision if >>>>>>it is important enough to fix or forget. I guess they only have so many hours >>>>>>in a day and they have to decide what is most important at the moment. >>>>>>Jim >>>>> >>>>>OK, Jim, but you must concur with me that B+N mate is not just one problem >>>>>between many, but a clasic kind of position every current program must solve >>>>***** >>>>I agree! I remember when David Kittinger took the B+N mate info out of the >>>>Forte computer (It was in it's predecessor the Super Constellation). I asked >>>>him why and he said he needed the memory for something else. I never bought >>>>another Novag computer after that. >>>>******* >>>> >>>>and >>>>>every tester must look at as a matter of fact. The same with: >>>>>a) king + pawn againts King >>>>>b) King + Rook againts King >>>>>c) King+ pawn in the h or a file >>>>>d) oposition rule >>>>>e) king +queen against king +rook >>>>>... And maybe some more. I think that these kind of situations should be tested >>>>>as a minimal test of proficiency. Should be kind of a rule of testing >>>>>operations. >>>>>Regards >>>>>fernando >>>> >>>>As I said. Tablebases will fix many of these problems. I am a very strong >>>>advocate of tablebases even if their contribution to rating points is minimal. >>>>But I repeat, the final decision as to what a program will or will not do lies >>>>with the programmer-_N_O_T_ the beta testers. Do you believe Christophe does >>>>not know that Chess Tiger will not mate with a Knight & Bishop? >>>>Jim >>> >>>I WANT to believe he just missed it. I do not want to believe he delivered us a >>>so gorgeous program without THAT and with full knowledege. Like to sell a >>>Mercedes without one of the wheels. >>>Fernando >> >> >> >>Yes, that's exactly what I did, Fernando. >> >>I'm sorry, but there are other bits of knowledge that I consider as being more >>essential than KBN/K, and so I started to add those other bits first. >> >> >> >> Christophe > >Hi! > >I haven't seen anyone mention another bug. Gambit don't moves at all after the >opening, start thinking but never moves. I have seen it 3 times after 70-80 >games. > >Yes the program is so exciting and fun that I can't complain at anyone of the >beta-testers! > >The only complain against the beta-testers is that only two mentioned that the >Century3 auto-player are extremely hard to get working properly.It only works >well against other DOS-programs. > >They could also have told us that the new Century3 is an excellent program that >can compete very well against the other top-programs. > >Bertil
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