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Subject: Re: Keeping the last pawn

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 03:58:33 11/27/00

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On November 26, 2000 at 19:36:45, Mogens Larsen wrote:

Crafty 17.14 with tablebases:

(4)   11->  16.72   2.23   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 Ke6 4.
                           Kxh6 g4 5. Kg6 g3 6. h6 g2 7. Ra1
(3)   12    20.91   2.35   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 g4 4. Ra4
                           g3 5. Ra3 g2 6. Re3+ Kd7 7. Rg3 Ke6
                           8. Rxg2
(4)   12->  36.23   2.35   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 g4 4. Ra4
                           g3 5. Ra3 g2 6. Re3+ Kd7 7. Rg3 Ke6
                           8. Rxg2
(3)   13    41.72   2.45   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 Ke6 4.
                           Kxh6 g4 5. Kg6 g3 6. h6 g2 7. Ra1 Nc4
                           8. Rg1
(4)   13->   1:02   2.45   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 Ke6 4.
                           Kxh6 g4 5. Kg6 g3 6. h6 g2 7. Ra1 Nc4
                           8. Rg1
(3)   14     1:28   2.48   1. h5 h6 2. Kd5 Kf8 3. Ra7 g4 4. Ke6
                           Ng5+ 5. Kf5 g3 6. Ra8+ Ke7 7. Ra3 g2
                           8. Rg3 Nf3 9. Rxg2
      14->   2:41   2.48   1. h5 h6 2. Kd5 Kf8 3. Ra7 g4 4. Ke6
                           Ng5+ 5. Kf5 g3 6. Ra8+ Ke7 7. Ra3 g2
                           8. Rg3 Nf3 9. Rxg2
      15     3:45   2.85   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 g4 4. Kxh6
                           g3 5. Kg6 Nc4 6. Ra1 Ne5+ 7. Kf5 Nd7


Crafty 17.14 without tablebases:


(4)   15->   1:15   2.93   1. Kf5 gxh4 2. Ra7+ Kf8 3. Kf6 Nd6
                           4. Rxh7 Ne4+ 5. Kf5 Nc5 6. Rc7 Nb3
                           7. Kf6 Ke8 8. Re7+ Kd8 9. Rh7 Kc8 10.
                           Rxh4
(3)   16     1:33   2.87   1. Kf5 gxh4 2. Ra7+ Kf8 3. Kf6 Nd6
                           4. Ra8+ Ne8+ 5. Ke6 h6 6. Kd7 Kg7 7.
                           Rxe8 Kf6 8. Re3 Kf5 9. Kd6 Kf4 10.
                           Rd3
      16     3:52   2.89   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 g4 4. Kxh6
                           g3 5. Kg5 Ke6 6. Ra2 Ke5 7. Re2+ Ne4+
                           8. Kh4 Kd4 9. Rxe4+ Kxe4 10. Kxg3
(2)   16->   4:34   2.89   1. h5 h6 2. Kf5 Nd6+ 3. Kg6 g4 4. Kxh6
                           g3 5. Kg5 Ke6 6. Ra2 Ke5 7. Re2+ Ne4+
                           8. Kh4 Kd4 9. Rxe4+ Kxe4 10. Kxg3
All done on a 2xP3-500
Kind regards
Bernhard

>On November 26, 2000 at 18:19:44, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>In general, trading is good for the side being ahead in material. This is basic
>>chess knowledge, known to most programs. But in the endgame, it's often wrong to
>>trade the last pawn, if the resulting material doesn't allow to win (a common
>>rule known from beginner's books is, that even the advantage of a minor piece
>>usually is not enough to win in a PAWNLESS endgame).
>>
>>This important motif can be tested with the following position from CSS 5/98,
>>where Mr. R.Petrykowski reported from a game Fritz5/P133 vs. the Tasc R30. Does
>>your program keep the last pawn?
>
>According to my little test Gandalf, Yace and Little Goliath finds h5 without
>tablebases. Surprisingly enough Crafty 17.13 (native) with four and some five
>piece tables, wants to play Kf5 gxh4 for six minutes on my computer before
>changing.
>
>Mogens.



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