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Subject: Re: Tough solution

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:50:33 01/15/98

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On January 15, 1998 at 18:08:49, Shane Booth wrote:

>[FEN "8/7p/6pP/k4pP1/b1p1pP2/KpPpP3/1P1P4/7Q w - - 0 1"]
>
>On January 15, 1998 at 13:28:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>I should add that while CB would obviously solve this and win, if it
>>were
>>playing, there is a way where it might not be able to win.  Since it is
>>going to have to shuffle pieces for > 40 moves so that the 50-move rule
>>would kick it in the right direction, it is possible that by the time 50
>>moves approaches, it can't find a way to play Qd1 without passing thru
>>another position for the 3rd time and repeating.  I'd hope there are
>>enough
>>paths, but whether they are is only one issue.  The other is whether it
>>would
>>leave itself a path where Qd1 works, because the king has to be over on
>>the
>>q-side or it doesn't work.
>>
>>I'd call this 50-50...
>
>Sorry, in this particular case the 50 move rule won't get it
>for you.  As Vincent originally wrote, 1. Qd1! is zugzwang.
>If white fails to play Qd1 straight away and shuffles it around
>black simply oscillates the bishop between b5, c6, d7.  As soon
>as White brings the queen to d1, Black plays Ba4 and prevents
>the sac.
>
>So it's not so obvious that CB will solve this without setting
>the 50-move counter close to 50.
>
>--
>Shane Booth


Good point... I didn't spend a lot of time looking at this and
overlooked
that.



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