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Subject: Re: PV Maximums (plies and characters) in CM8000

Author: John Merlino

Date: 19:04:29 11/28/00

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On November 28, 2000 at 16:37:28, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 28, 2000 at 16:28:26, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 2000 at 16:21:33, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On November 27, 2000 at 18:35:09, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>I cannot remember who asked this, nor on what thread the question was asked, so
>>>>I'm just posting this here on the hopes that the person who asked me will find
>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>The question was: What are the maximums, both in plies and in characters, that
>>>>The King/CM8000 supports?
>>>>
>>>>Answer: The King has an internal maximum PV length of 63 plies, and the GUI
>>>>supports PV strings that are up to 2048 characters long.
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>
>>>Hello John,
>>>I think the question was how many plies will CM8K search.  I gave it the
>>>following position from the endgame tutorials.
>>>
>>>8/p7/P7/8/8/6K1/8/6k1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Chessmaster 8000 searched 46 plies in about 2 seconds and stopped (Infinite
>>>level).  The clock continued to run but CM8K was not searching anymore.  This
>>>looks like a bug to me.
>>>Jim
>>
>>Well, that's exactly what happens to me too, but I'm not SURE it's a bug.
>>Obviously, infinite time means that the engine will never return a move (it's
>>basically the same as analyze mode). However, the engine stopping might be
>>something intentional in Johan's code. I'll ask him and get back to you as soon
>>as he gets back to me....
>>
>>jm
>
>Thanks John,
>Well you can select 99 plies in the personality setup so I expect that it should
>go that far in infinite level.   That's why I suspect it's a bug.  Also if it's
>not going to compute anymore then it should kick out a move and stop it's clock
>even in the infinite mode.
>Jim

I got a response from Johan. I was incorrect about the max PV length for The
King. It has a maximum of (gee whiz) 46 plies, and 200 characters. The GUI, as
mentioned above, can support up to 2048 characters of PV text from other
engines, however.

I imagine that the reason that 99 plies was set as a maximum was just for the
future, and possibly even because they didn't know what The King's maximum PV
length was when that code was written!

Sorry about the confusion.

jm



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