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Subject: Re: Fritz 6a best Endgame Play further opinions

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:35:19 11/30/00

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On November 30, 2000 at 01:50:29, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 29, 2000 at 22:21:21, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 2000 at 21:42:50, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>
>>>Any more opinions as to best endgame play? How does Shredder compare?
>>
>>I cannot talk about the most recent program versions, but I used to think that
>>Crafty, Chessmaster (King) and M-Chess Pro are, or were, best in the endgame.
>>But this opinion was built mainly upon results from the following few test
>>positions (tested without! tablebases):
>>
>>8/3Np3/7P/1p3P2/1k6/5K2/1b6/8 w - - bm f6
>>8/6k1/8/5PK1/4b1B1/7P/8/8 b - - bm Bxf5
>>3k4/p7/K3BP2/8/7p/8/2P4P/8 w - - bm Kb7
>>6k1/2R2p1p/5rp1/8/6P1/P2bRB2/1r5P/7K b - - bm Rxf3
>>8/4p3/1K6/8/2k1P3/6N1/7p/8 w - - bm Ka5
>>8/5pk1/5pnp/8/4BPP1/4K2P/8/8 b - - bm h5
>>
>>Maybe some of you want to try out the new programs, or version, with these.
>>
>>Btw. the third one, Kb7, is one of my favorite computer moves I witnessed in a
>>game. Machine style, but very elegant as well in this case (played by WChess
>>1.04).
>>
>>The last one could cause some discussion, but Crafty has "acknowledged" the move
>>h5 by 2 billion nodes (thanks to Dann Corbit). It is a blind bishop position.
>>
>>Regards,
>>M.Scheidl
>>
>>
>>An elegant computer move:
>>[D]3k4/p7/K3BP2/8/7p/8/2P4P/8 w - - bm Kb7
>>1.Kb7!! © WChess 1.04
>
>I gave the "elegant computer move" to Chess Tiger 13.0 and it plays Kb7
>instantly and announces mate in 4?
>Jim

I do not see mate in 4.

The shortest mate that I can see for white is 1.Kb7,2.c4,3.c5,4.c6,5.c7,6.c8Q#

I can see also 1.Kb7 2.f7 3.f8Q# but black has defence against it(Ke7)

The move kb7 is an elegant human move because it is based on a simple plan and
computers do not plan.
Programs can find it by search but some programs have problem to find Kb7
My Junior5.9 wants to play c4.

Uri



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