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Subject: Re: preprocessing

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 07:26:44 12/01/00

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On December 01, 2000 at 09:45:17, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 01, 2000 at 09:16:12, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>i was wondering about some evaluations which fritz 5.00 gives me for the
>>following position:
>>
>>[D]1k1r3r/p1p1n3/1pq1p2p/P3Ppp1/2QP4/8/2P1NPPP/RR4K1 w - - 0 0
>>
>>the black king is under attack, but fritz gives about +1.5 on depth 11
>>for qxc6 (to be fair, this is only the second-best move according to fritz).
>>after you play out the moves qxc6 nxc6 the evaluation drops immediately to 0,
>>which is obviously a better evaluation for the position after the queen
>>exchange.
>>is this an example for preprocessing in action - bad black king AND queens on
>>the board?
>
>Yes
>
><snipped>
>> and if yes: which programs do NOT make this type of mistake?
>
>Gandalf does not do preprocessing and I believe that there are a lot of programs
>that do not do this kind of mistake.
>
>My experience with chessmaster6000,hiarcs7.32 and Junior also suggest that they
>are better than Fritz5 in avoiding preproccesing.
>
>I believe that Fritz5 does more preprocessing than most programs.
>
>I have not Fritz6a but I read that Fritz6 is clearly better in avoiding
>preprocessing and this is one of the reasons thast fritz6a is better.
>
>Uri

I gave this to Fritz 6 and it has +1.34 with Qa6.  I think the evaluation is OK
but exchanging Queens kills the attack.  Fritz 6 seems to try to avoid this
exchange.
Jim



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