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Subject: Kamikaze Shredder ???

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:20:41 12/02/00

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On December 02, 2000 at 11:11:27, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:

>On December 02, 2000 at 10:11:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2000 at 06:18:32, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>
>>>On December 01, 2000 at 17:39:35, Franck ZIBI wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hello Thomas,
>>>>
>>>>>Yes Kamikaze Shredder needs 10Min.26sec. on my AMD K6-2+ 600Mhz in the 12ply.
>>>>That's simply impressive, what's the Shredder Eval at ply 12 ?
>>>>Does it see the win or consider it as a draw ?
>>>>I was already impressed by Shredder in London (WMCCC) where it found a narrow
>>>>escape against Nimzo thanks to (among all) its tactical power.
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Frank,what about a little goody? Will i get your new version of ZChess?
>>>>You will find the last beta version of ZChess (Version 2.22) at :
>>>>http://myweb.worldnet.net/~fzibi/zchess/beta/zchess.zip
>>>>
>>>>If you already have ZChess 2.0, you need only the following
>>>>(much smaller) file :
>>>>http://myweb.worldnet.net/~fzibi/zchess/beta/zchexe.zip
>>>>
>>>>This version appears to be between 60 and 80 elo point stronger then
>>>>ZChess 2.0 London.
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards.
>>>The final evalution of Kamikaze Shredder on ply 12 is +1,14 for White.
>>>Thanks for ZChess 2.22, works fine under S5.Go on ZChess.
>>>Greetings Thomas
>>
>>I think that the evaluations and the results of kamikaze shredder are not
>>interesting because I am sure that it is easy to generate weak personalities of
>>other chess programs that find the right move in this case.
>>
>>It is more interesting to know how much time does shredder5 need to find the
>>right move.
>>
>>Uri
>I don“t think so. Mabe Kamikaze Shredder plays stronger as Shredder 5.
>See Gambit Tiger and Tiger 13.0. I will play tournament games the next days if i
>can organize my time good.
>Thomas



I don't think you can compare Chess Tiger 13.0 + Gambit Tiger 1.0 with Shredder
5 + Kamikaze Shredder.

Gambit Tiger 1.0 is a genuine and honest attempt to improve both the engine and
the playing strength, while Kamikaze Shredder is obviously a commercial attempt
to jump on the bandwagon.

Remember that Gambit Tiger 1.0 has recently won both the French Computer
Championship and the super strong Dutch Computer Championship.

If you want to make an interesting experiment, I think you should let Gambit
Tiger play against Kamikaze Shredder. The original new style program against the
follower.



    Christophe



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