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Subject: Re: Kamikaze Shredder ???

Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen

Date: 11:11:54 12/02/00

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On December 02, 2000 at 12:20:41, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On December 02, 2000 at 11:11:27, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2000 at 10:11:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 02, 2000 at 06:18:32, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 01, 2000 at 17:39:35, Franck ZIBI wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Thomas,
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes Kamikaze Shredder needs 10Min.26sec. on my AMD K6-2+ 600Mhz in the 12ply.
>>>>>That's simply impressive, what's the Shredder Eval at ply 12 ?
>>>>>Does it see the win or consider it as a draw ?
>>>>>I was already impressed by Shredder in London (WMCCC) where it found a narrow
>>>>>escape against Nimzo thanks to (among all) its tactical power.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Frank,what about a little goody? Will i get your new version of ZChess?
>>>>>You will find the last beta version of ZChess (Version 2.22) at :
>>>>>http://myweb.worldnet.net/~fzibi/zchess/beta/zchess.zip
>>>>>
>>>>>If you already have ZChess 2.0, you need only the following
>>>>>(much smaller) file :
>>>>>http://myweb.worldnet.net/~fzibi/zchess/beta/zchexe.zip
>>>>>
>>>>>This version appears to be between 60 and 80 elo point stronger then
>>>>>ZChess 2.0 London.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Regards.
>>>>The final evalution of Kamikaze Shredder on ply 12 is +1,14 for White.
>>>>Thanks for ZChess 2.22, works fine under S5.Go on ZChess.
>>>>Greetings Thomas
>>>
>>>I think that the evaluations and the results of kamikaze shredder are not
>>>interesting because I am sure that it is easy to generate weak personalities of
>>>other chess programs that find the right move in this case.
>>>
>>>It is more interesting to know how much time does shredder5 need to find the
>>>right move.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>I don“t think so. Mabe Kamikaze Shredder plays stronger as Shredder 5.
>>See Gambit Tiger and Tiger 13.0. I will play tournament games the next days if i
>>can organize my time good.
>>Thomas
>
>
>
>I don't think you can compare Chess Tiger 13.0 + Gambit Tiger 1.0 with Shredder
>5 + Kamikaze Shredder.
>
>Gambit Tiger 1.0 is a genuine and honest attempt to improve both the engine and
>the playing strength, while Kamikaze Shredder is obviously a commercial attempt
>to jump on the bandwagon.

Is it?

Stefan


>
>Remember that Gambit Tiger 1.0 has recently won both the French Computer
>Championship and the super strong Dutch Computer Championship.
>
>If you want to make an interesting experiment, I think you should let Gambit
>Tiger play against Kamikaze Shredder. The original new style program against the
>follower.
>
>
>
>    Christophe



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