Author: Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
Date: 03:22:37 12/03/00
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On December 02, 2000 at 21:10:25, Christophe Theron wrote: >On December 02, 2000 at 14:11:54, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote: > >>On December 02, 2000 at 12:20:41, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On December 02, 2000 at 11:11:27, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >>> >>>>On December 02, 2000 at 10:11:52, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 02, 2000 at 06:18:32, Thomas Lagershausen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 01, 2000 at 17:39:35, Franck ZIBI wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hello Thomas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Yes Kamikaze Shredder needs 10Min.26sec. on my AMD K6-2+ 600Mhz in the 12ply. >>>>>>>That's simply impressive, what's the Shredder Eval at ply 12 ? >>>>>>>Does it see the win or consider it as a draw ? >>>>>>>I was already impressed by Shredder in London (WMCCC) where it found a narrow >>>>>>>escape against Nimzo thanks to (among all) its tactical power. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi Frank,what about a little goody? Will i get your new version of ZChess? >>>>>>>You will find the last beta version of ZChess (Version 2.22) at : >>>>>>>http://myweb.worldnet.net/~fzibi/zchess/beta/zchess.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you already have ZChess 2.0, you need only the following >>>>>>>(much smaller) file : >>>>>>>http://myweb.worldnet.net/~fzibi/zchess/beta/zchexe.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This version appears to be between 60 and 80 elo point stronger then >>>>>>>ZChess 2.0 London. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Best Regards. >>>>>>The final evalution of Kamikaze Shredder on ply 12 is +1,14 for White. >>>>>>Thanks for ZChess 2.22, works fine under S5.Go on ZChess. >>>>>>Greetings Thomas >>>>> >>>>>I think that the evaluations and the results of kamikaze shredder are not >>>>>interesting because I am sure that it is easy to generate weak personalities of >>>>>other chess programs that find the right move in this case. >>>>> >>>>>It is more interesting to know how much time does shredder5 need to find the >>>>>right move. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>>I don´t think so. Mabe Kamikaze Shredder plays stronger as Shredder 5. >>>>See Gambit Tiger and Tiger 13.0. I will play tournament games the next days if i >>>>can organize my time good. >>>>Thomas >>> >>> >>> >>>I don't think you can compare Chess Tiger 13.0 + Gambit Tiger 1.0 with Shredder >>>5 + Kamikaze Shredder. >>> >>>Gambit Tiger 1.0 is a genuine and honest attempt to improve both the engine and >>>the playing strength, while Kamikaze Shredder is obviously a commercial attempt >>>to jump on the bandwagon. >> >>Is it? >> >>Stefan > > > >I wonder whose idea it is. Is it yours, or Weiner's? It was my idea. >BTW when I was looking for a name for what is now "Gambit Tiger", the name >"Kamikaze" came to my mind. I rejected it because Gambit Tiger is NOT a >kamikaze. It can play quietly when needed. You might be surprised, but there is also a Gambit Shredder on the Shredder5 CD, as well as a Shredder Bean Counter, a Shredder Brute Force, a Solid Shredder. All have different playing styles but have a similiar strength. You can use all simultaneously for analysis to get different view for a certain positions or use them together in the triple brain. What's your problem? Stefan
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