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Subject: Re: Moderation of CCC - pretty ineffective and therefore useless

Author: Ritter Rost

Date: 06:38:05 12/03/00

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On December 03, 2000 at 03:37:40, Gregor Overney wrote:

>I can read commercials about buying computers at CCC, political discussions
>about a countries elections, and tons of people publishing their results about
>engine vs. engine on a single CPU. Well, those "limited" engine vs. engine posts
>might just be acceptable, but the others are definitely not suitable for this
>group.
>
>Either we get rid of moderators or they start doing their job. CCC is not
>getting faster by adding messages that are absolutely not related to CCC.
>
>BTW, why do I not like engine vs. engine wars running on the same CPU? Some
>chess programs rely on extremely fast searches. Other rely more on clever
>evaluation functions and search much less nodes. For the first type of engines,
>frequent cache flashes are a much harder penalty than for those engines that do
>not search a la brute force. So, if you have the need to test your engine, but
>you have only one CPU available, try some free chess server to compete with
>others. Otherwise, give those engines a change to "maxout" their performance on
>a "undisturbed" CPU. A dual CPU system is more or less acceptable. - And use two
>identical systems since a comparison of Crafty running on PII/300 compared to a
>run on PowerPC 400 MHz does not provide too much useful input. If you just want
>to find out how your system compares, check out SpecINT2000 since it contains
>Crafty as one of its test programs (see
>http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/CINT2000/186.crafty/docs/186.crafty.html).
>
>Gregor


The level of personal attacks in CCC has never been as low as under the current
moderation.

A lively group needs a lively discussion culture to maintain some social
coherence. Since its so difficult to conduct a meaningful discussion about
computer chess if you aren't a programmer (see the "new paradigm idiocy") or if
you aren't a chess player, contribution possibilities are reduced to mere boring
bean counting.

So a little off topic here and there helps the sanity of this forum.



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