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Subject: Re: Moderation of CCC - pretty ineffective and therefore useless

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 15:51:03 12/03/00

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On December 03, 2000 at 10:32:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 03, 2000 at 09:38:05, Ritter Rost wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 2000 at 03:37:40, Gregor Overney wrote:
>>
>>>I can read commercials about buying computers at CCC, political discussions
>>>about a countries elections, and tons of people publishing their results about
>>>engine vs. engine on a single CPU. Well, those "limited" engine vs. engine posts
>>>might just be acceptable, but the others are definitely not suitable for this
>>>group.
>>>
>>>Either we get rid of moderators or they start doing their job. CCC is not
>>>getting faster by adding messages that are absolutely not related to CCC.
>>>
>>>BTW, why do I not like engine vs. engine wars running on the same CPU? Some
>>>chess programs rely on extremely fast searches. Other rely more on clever
>>>evaluation functions and search much less nodes. For the first type of engines,
>>>frequent cache flashes are a much harder penalty than for those engines that do
>>>not search a la brute force. So, if you have the need to test your engine, but
>>>you have only one CPU available, try some free chess server to compete with
>>>others. Otherwise, give those engines a change to "maxout" their performance on
>>>a "undisturbed" CPU. A dual CPU system is more or less acceptable. - And use two
>>>identical systems since a comparison of Crafty running on PII/300 compared to a
>>>run on PowerPC 400 MHz does not provide too much useful input. If you just want
>>>to find out how your system compares, check out SpecINT2000 since it contains
>>>Crafty as one of its test programs (see
>>>http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/CINT2000/186.crafty/docs/186.crafty.html).
>>>
>>>Gregor
>>
>>
>>The level of personal attacks in CCC has never been as low as under the current
>>moderation.
>>
>>A lively group needs a lively discussion culture to maintain some social
>>coherence. Since its so difficult to conduct a meaningful discussion about
>>computer chess if you aren't a programmer (see the "new paradigm idiocy") or if
>>you aren't a chess player, contribution possibilities are reduced to mere boring
>>bean counting.
>>
>>So a little off topic here and there helps the sanity of this forum.
>
>
>I tend to agree.  I simply "self-moderate" topics I am not interested in, by
>just not reading them.  Some off-topic threads are interesting.  As long as
>they don't go on forever, nor cause complaints.

I automatically ignored all political post since I live in Florida and I'm
bombarded with it daily.  However I would like to register my complaint in
advance of all off topic discussions.  :>)
Jim
P.S. I live in constant fear of my "dent" being ignored completely.




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