Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:49:40 12/03/00
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On December 03, 2000 at 23:34:39, Chessfun wrote:
>On December 03, 2000 at 17:47:08, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 2000 at 11:49:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 03, 2000 at 10:44:28, Shep wrote:
>>>
>>>>My results with Shredder 5 (arrived yesterday) so far:
>>>>
>>>>10/game
>>>> 1:0 Junior 6a
>>>> 1/2 Gambit Tiger 1.0
>>>> 0:1 Fritz 4.01
>>>> 1/2 Hiarcs 7.32
>>>>
>>>>30/game
>>>> 1/2 Gandalf 4.32f
>>>> 1:0 Fritz 6.0b (Triple Brain with SOS)
>>>> 0:1 Chess Tiger 13
>>>> 0:1 Gambit Tiger 1.0 (see posting above for the beautiful game)
>>>>
>>>>So far, my intuition tells me that Shredder is about the same strength as
>>>>Fritz/Junior (maybe slightly better) but a little worse than CT and GT.
>>>>More matches will of course tell more.
>>>>
>>>>---
>>>>Shep
>>>
>>>I remember that the claim of the programmer is that shredder is better at long
>>>time control relative to other programs.
>>>
>>>The claim of being 100 elo better than Fritz6a was based on tournament time
>>>control so you need tournament time control in order to check if it is really
>>>100 elo better than Fritz6a.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>
>>The claim of being 100 elo points better than F6 is not from the programmer, as
>>far as I know. It's from Marcus Kästner.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>If that were what he said IMO it is deceiving as his results for
>F6 are in large made up of results of the original engine prior
>to the release of 6a Jan 2000. I understand the limitations of
>using patches or upgraded engs in ratings but the point is that
>people take this to mean Fritz 6a the version as rated and tested
>by the SSDF, when this is not the case.
>
>Shredder 5 may indeed turn out to be 100 greater, I don't have a copy
>so can't really say with any certainty. But I can say that I honestly
>doubt whether even one year from now any program will prove to be 100
>points better than Fritz 6a.
>
>Sarah.
I totally agree with you.
Who knows? Maybe Chess Tiger 14 ? ;)
Christophe
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