Author: Andrew Williams
Date: 00:34:11 12/04/00
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On December 03, 2000 at 18:54:47, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >On December 03, 2000 at 03:37:40, Gregor Overney wrote: > >>I can read commercials about buying computers at CCC, political discussions >>about a countries elections, and tons of people publishing their results about >>engine vs. engine on a single CPU. Well, those "limited" engine vs. engine posts >>might just be acceptable, but the others are definitely not suitable for this >>group. >> >>Either we get rid of moderators or they start doing their job. CCC is not >>getting faster by adding messages that are absolutely not related to CCC. >> >>BTW, why do I not like engine vs. engine wars running on the same CPU? Some >>chess programs rely on extremely fast searches. Other rely more on clever >>evaluation functions and search much less nodes. For the first type of engines, >>frequent cache flashes are a much harder penalty than for those engines that do >>not search a la brute force. So, if you have the need to test your engine, but >>you have only one CPU available, try some free chess server to compete with >>others. Otherwise, give those engines a change to "maxout" their performance on >>a "undisturbed" CPU. A dual CPU system is more or less acceptable. - And use two >>identical systems since a comparison of Crafty running on PII/300 compared to a >>run on PowerPC 400 MHz does not provide too much useful input. If you just want >>to find out how your system compares, check out SpecINT2000 since it contains >>Crafty as one of its test programs (see >>http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/CINT2000/186.crafty/docs/186.crafty.html). >> >>Gregor > >I can understand your criticism to a point. However, you should bear in mind >that there are many emails and complaints that the moderators have to sift >through and act accordingly. As a matter of fact most of the moderation is >simply not transparent -- you get to see only the "crude" aspects of it: >message deletion and the occasional warning, etc. If we started hair-splitting >about the contents of the messages and their compliance with the Charter you can >be sure that this forum would cease to exist. Just like in everyday >communication, redundancy must exist for the real exchange of ideas to take >place. > >On average, I think that we've been doing a pretty good job, as it is extremely >difficult to satisfy all of the CCC readers... > I agree with the first part of this sentence; the second part is, to say the least, putting it mildly. Andrew
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