Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:37:29 12/04/00
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On December 04, 2000 at 00:19:57, Chessfun wrote: >On December 03, 2000 at 23:46:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 03, 2000 at 23:27:03, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On December 03, 2000 at 19:59:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>At the suggestion of others, yes. IMHO, I would have no problem in deleting >>>>_every_ off-topic post that shows up. But the general consensus is that that >>>>is not what is wanted. >>> >>>I agree that the general feeling regarding deleting off-topic is that >>>it was not wanted. And it was all made fairly clear during the election >>>as to the candidates views on the subject. >>> >>>>Which is also fine by me... The headache is getting >>>>yelled at by _both_ sides... (a) don't delete that.. (b) why in the hell >>>>didn't you delete that. Etc... >>> >>>Personally I think the level of toleration is similar to how you have stated >>>your views as being. That if it is left to fade then it's ok. But if you >>>are contributing in these off-topic posts such as the current one which has >>>been going on far to long, then your policy as stated by you isn't what you >>>practice. >>> >>>Sarah. >> >> >>What policy is not what I practice? I ignore more off-topic posts and take >>no action unless asked to. I occasionally participate in one. > >By participating yourself how can the thread die?. which is what you >have previously wrote. Hold the phone. I said that I would hope that off-topic threads would die of their own accord. That doesn't mean that I personally will refuse to post to them. If you look at the US Constitution thread for example, it has effectively died off, even with a very few comments as late as yesterday.. > >>Occasionally >>a normal thread diverges into something that is interesting to me. IE Beowulf >>and distributed computing, or vector computing, or computer architecture, or >>operating systems, etc. > >Maybe, but I can't see the current thread on "The Truth about how the US >constitution works" turning into anything related to any subject that should >be on this board. Nor into something on-topic that you may find interesting. > I don't think it matters whether a thread _starts_ off-topic, or whether it starts on-topic, but diverges to an off-topic subject. In the former, everything is off-topic, in the later, the sub-thread is off-topic... >I'm sure you have views on the subject of the US constitution as we all likely >do. But IMO you should be setting an example by staying out of off-topic >threads. > >>I tolerate off-topic as that seems to be the general wish of the members. I >>participate in them when they are interesting. As I have said before, when I >>was elected to be a moderator, I was _not_ suddenly removed from the normal >>membership role, IMHO... > >As I said above. There is no doubt the US election and resulting constitutional >questions and issues of ballot preparation are interesting. But they are so far >off-topic and such an open ended argument that the resulting posts clearly from >the first one of the thread would not simply die. If threads such as this >continue we will only end up with more and more. > >I could make many posts on topical Canadian subjects, Quebec (there's a goodie) >the Canadian election, even Elections Canada and could work any of those >subjects into the above thread, especially elections Canada. But where does it >end. If I want to post on those subjects I'll go elsewhere, the same applies >here to these off-topic subjects. > >What is the policy, either it exists or it don't. From what I read there is a >fine line and that line is one only known to you. I see no other moderators >voicing an opinion on the subject. > >Sarah. There essentially is no policy. Which is a problem of sorts. This has been left to the moderators. Which is not the way to run things. However, you will _not_ get any definitive policy from the group of CCC members, because opinions vary so widely on the subject. I think the current group of moderators would like to hold the discussions very close to CC and stop off-topic completely. However, if you have read previous discussions on the topic of off-topic posts, you saw that there is no uniform agreement on anything, by anybody. I think that the moderators have to act within the confines of what the "general" members really want...
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