Author: Chessfun
Date: 14:24:39 12/04/00
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On December 04, 2000 at 15:48:06, Pete Galati wrote: >On December 04, 2000 at 09:29:44, Stephen A. Boak wrote: > >>On December 04, 2000 at 05:51:11, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On December 03, 2000 at 22:53:51, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>On December 03, 2000 at 21:19:12, Stephen A. Boak wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 03, 2000 at 16:41:10, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 03, 2000 at 13:53:47, Stephen A. Boak wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I vote to move all off-topics to the General Chess Forum--rapidly, when detected >>>>>>>by the moderators themselves or after a reader complaint. This should be a >>>>>>>simple solution (I hope). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I think posters themselves should have the self-control to avoid off-topic >>>>>>>posting in the Computer Chess forum. Alas, they often do not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Then those who want attention on 'off-topics' may have it, in the general forum >>>>>>>(which I virtually never read!). The thread may languish at its leisure, die in >>>>>>>relative obscurity, and not interfere with those who are studying or enjoying >>>>>>>computer chess topics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>How about it? >>>>>> >>>>>>What is that board for? Everything that isn't for here? >>>>>> >>>>>>bruce >>>>> >>>>>Is your question real or rhetorical? >>>> >>>>>If real, don't ask me, ask Mr. Schwartz, the owner of the board. >>>> >>>>Beeeep wrong. >>>> >>>>>If rhetorical, okay here's my reply: :) >>>> >>>>Correct. >>>> >>>>>You have two boards intended to keep certain types of postings segregated, due >>>>>to topicality. >>>>> >>>>>The first board is intended only for topics specifically involving computer >>>>>chess (specific emphasis on computer). >>>>> >>>>>The second board is intended for all other general chess topics that are >>>>>non-computer in nature (emphasis on non-computer). >>>>> >>>>>Thus I believe an off-topic posting (having *nothing* to do with computer chess) >>>>>on, say, elections, should be put in the more general forum (general chess >>>>>forum) rather than the more specific forum (computer chess forum). This >>>>>reserves the forum with the more specific posting topic for the more specific >>>>>posts. >>>> >>>>This makes no sense at all. >>>>These are two specific forums for Chess one involving computers >>>>the other not. Those are the subjects that should be posted. >>>>No others. >>>> >>>>>If the moderators do not moderate to the extent of deleting off-topic posts (and >>>>>that would be my preference, although as Bob says if an off-topic thread is >>>>>short-lived it may often simply be ignored) , then they should at least move >>>>>them to the non-specific forum where they interfere less with the nature of the >>>>>specific forum (for computer chess!). >>>> >>>>The problem is the moderators are not consistant with either their >>>>policy regarding deletion or the methods chosen. >>>> >>>>>However, if you must handle the threads in order to move them to the General >>>>>Chess Forum, where the threads are also off-topic, then you might simply delete >>>>>them, saving further inconvenience to the General Chess Forum readers who at >>>>>least expect that board's postings to concern chess in general. >>>> >>>>You got it. >>>> >>>>Sarah. >>> >>> I'm against most deletions done by other than oneself. It can cause many >>>upsets, and doesn't respect those who post. >>> But I do agree that everyone should keep on-topic, or very closely related. >>> And the same goes for the general chess forum. It is seriously lacking however, >>>in important chess matters. But it should NEVER be a trash can of anything. >>> Stephen, what would you say about the off-topic and trash comments from General >>>Chess forum being moved over here? >>>S.Taylor >> >>Aha! Gotcha! :) >> >>If you object so strongly to *moving* an off-topic or trash comment from the >>Computer Chess Forum to the General Chess Forum (and I agree, in fact), then why >>allow such 'trash can' items to be posted (or remain posted) in the Computer >>Chess Forum in the first place? >> >>If they are so blatantly trash or off-topic that moving them to the General >>Chess Forum would be unpalatable, then they absolutely should not be left in the >>initial forum in the first place--they should be deleted! That is my point. >> >>I have a little bit of tongue in cheek humor (Bruce missed it, Sarah missed it) >>behind my initial postings--based on the following conundrum: >> >>1. What is the sense of having multiple forums, one for more specific topics >>than the other, one for more general topics than the other, if the moderators do >>not enforce the segregation rationale? >> >>2. How could Point 1, above, even be a meaningful question (and thus my >>suggestion in prior postings was meaningless, unfortunately), if it is rendered >>moot by the failure to restrict off-topic postings in the more specialized forum >>(the Computer Chess Forum)? >> >>What a joke!--letting off-topic matters remain in a forum they don't belong >>to--especially when they take up so much bandwidth (more than a single posting >>and a couple of replies). >> >>A third forum we should have is the off-topic forum, which is the big trash can >>for deleted posts! >> >>Moderators shouldn't hesitate to use it. I'm not trying to make them police >>every two cents tossed into a posting, but the blatant threads that are >>completely off-topic should be quickly deleted, without a moments hesitation. >> >>And, any hue and cry on such moderator action should be posted (else moved) to >>the general chess forum, since the endless arguments that *may* result are not >>themselves on the topic of computer chess. >> >>This would make me a much, much happier reader of the computer chess forum. I'm >>sure I'm not alone in this. >> >>--Steve :) > >Yep. Well, some sort of moderation seems to be needed (not talking about this >thread) but too much moderation is never good. If people are not given some >sort of leeway as to what can be talked about, then it does become a very dry >uninteresting place, I think that idea was mentioned elsewhere, I forget where >at the moment. >So if everyone is so worried about whether they'll be on-topic enough to fit >into the computer/chess format, then half of what gets discussed would disapear, >and in turn valuable input would be lost because of the lack of dynamics. I I disagree. Posters know well enough whether they are on or off topic. I see no dynamics that will be lost as a result of removing ALL off-topic posts. >genuinly pity anyone who's life was 100% Chess or computer Chess, because that's >just no way to live. It's not a way of life? it's a simple case of that's what this forum is. There are many other places to talk politics or other subjects. Unless this place is cleaned up and these off-topic postings deleted this will become another rgcc, then what was the point of it's creation?. Sarah.
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