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Subject: Re: I vote to Move All Off-topics to General Chess Forum

Author: Chessfun

Date: 14:35:21 12/04/00

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On December 04, 2000 at 09:29:44, Stephen A. Boak wrote:

>On December 04, 2000 at 05:51:11, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On December 03, 2000 at 22:53:51, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On December 03, 2000 at 21:19:12, Stephen A. Boak wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 03, 2000 at 16:41:10, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 03, 2000 at 13:53:47, Stephen A. Boak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I vote to move all off-topics to the General Chess Forum--rapidly, when detected
>>>>>>by the moderators themselves or after a reader complaint.  This should be a
>>>>>>simple solution (I hope).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think posters themselves should have the self-control to avoid off-topic
>>>>>>posting in the Computer Chess forum.  Alas, they often do not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then those who want attention on 'off-topics' may have it, in the general forum
>>>>>>(which I virtually never read!).  The thread may languish at its leisure, die in
>>>>>>relative obscurity, and not interfere with those who are studying or enjoying
>>>>>>computer chess topics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How about it?
>>>>>
>>>>>What is that board for?  Everything that isn't for here?
>>>>>
>>>>>bruce
>>>>
>>>>Is your question real or rhetorical?
>>>
>>>>If real, don't ask me, ask Mr. Schwartz, the owner of the board.
>>>
>>>Beeeep wrong.
>>>
>>>>If rhetorical, okay here's my reply:  :)
>>>
>>>Correct.
>>>
>>>>You have two boards intended to keep certain types of postings segregated, due
>>>>to topicality.
>>>>
>>>>The first board is intended only for topics specifically involving computer
>>>>chess (specific emphasis on computer).
>>>>
>>>>The second board is intended for all other general chess topics that are
>>>>non-computer in nature (emphasis on non-computer).
>>>>
>>>>Thus I believe an off-topic posting (having *nothing* to do with computer chess)
>>>>on, say, elections, should be put in the more general forum (general chess
>>>>forum) rather than the more specific forum (computer chess forum).  This
>>>>reserves the forum with the more specific posting topic for the more specific
>>>>posts.
>>>
>>>This makes no sense at all.
>>>These are two specific forums for Chess one involving computers
>>>the other not. Those are the subjects that should be posted.
>>>No others.
>>>
>>>>If the moderators do not moderate to the extent of deleting off-topic posts (and
>>>>that would be my preference, although as Bob says if an off-topic thread is
>>>>short-lived it may often simply be ignored) , then they should at least move
>>>>them to the non-specific forum where they interfere less with the nature of the
>>>>specific forum (for computer chess!).
>>>
>>>The problem is the moderators are not consistant with either their
>>>policy regarding deletion or the methods chosen.
>>>
>>>>However, if you must handle the threads in order to move them to the General
>>>>Chess Forum, where the threads are also off-topic, then you might simply delete
>>>>them, saving further inconvenience to the General Chess Forum readers who at
>>>>least expect that board's postings to concern chess in general.
>>>
>>>You got it.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>>
>> I'm against most deletions done by other than oneself. It can cause many
>>upsets, and doesn't respect those who post.
>>  But I do agree that everyone should keep on-topic, or very closely related.
>> And the same goes for the general chess forum. It is seriously lacking however,
>>in important chess matters. But it should NEVER be a trash can of anything.
>> Stephen, what would you say about the off-topic and trash comments from General
>>Chess forum being moved over here?
>>S.Taylor
>
>Aha!  Gotcha!   :)
>
>If you object so strongly to *moving* an off-topic or trash comment from the
>Computer Chess Forum to the General Chess Forum (and I agree, in fact), then why
>allow such 'trash can' items to be posted (or remain posted) in the Computer
>Chess Forum in the first place?
>
>If they are so blatantly trash or off-topic that moving them to the General
>Chess Forum would be unpalatable, then they absolutely should not be left in the
>initial forum in the first place--they should be deleted!  That is my point.
>
>I have a little bit of tongue in cheek humor (Bruce missed it, Sarah missed it)
>behind my initial postings--based on the following conundrum:
>
>1. What is the sense of having multiple forums, one for more specific topics
>than the other, one for more general topics than the other, if the moderators do
>not enforce the segregation rationale?

I never missed it. It was a question I raised months ago.
Either we have a moderated forum or we don't. If we don't have one
then we may as well get rid of GCF.

>What a joke!--letting off-topic matters remain in a forum they don't belong
>to--especially when they take up so much bandwidth (more than a single posting
>and a couple of replies).

It all comes down to moderator policy and defining such a policy early on.
Maybe a poll on the off-topic subject would help.
If we already had one then have another, the same as normal elections.

>A third forum we should have is the off-topic forum, which is the big trash can
>for deleted posts!

Hahaha LOL...too funny.

>Moderators shouldn't hesitate to use it.  I'm not trying to make them police
>every two cents tossed into a posting, but the blatant threads that are
>completely off-topic should be quickly deleted, without a moments hesitation.

Opps above I thought you were joking LOL.
This makes no sense at all, you blast away at someone then it's deleted so it
can be read elsewhere LOL.

Sarah.



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