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Subject: Re: Another ChessMaster 8000 bug

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 19:34:29 12/04/00

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On December 04, 2000 at 18:16:45, David Dahlem wrote:

>
>On December 04, 2000 at 17:26:37, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On December 04, 2000 at 13:45:21, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On December 04, 2000 at 09:12:16, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 03, 2000 at 17:55:34, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>After playing an automatic tournament between 2 personalities(CM vs CM/16M), the
>>>>>tournament results listed several games as "White lost on time"/"Black lost on
>>>>>time".  In all three cases the loser was the original ChessMaster.  In one of
>>>>>the games it was a draw by repetition at move 32 so I'm sure ChessMaster did not
>>>>>run out of time.  The others I was not watching but this seems strange since
>>>>>normally Chessmaster does not come close to losing on time.  So in my opinion
>>>>>you cannot trust the "Tournament results".
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>More info on this problem.  Another 120 games played last night and 4 more games
>>>>were "lost on time".  All were with black.  A couple were because it was a 3
>>>>move repetition in which it was black's turn to move but apparently black never
>>>>moved.  This is a bug which needs to be addressed.  There were many 3 fold
>>>>repetitions in the tournament so I don't know why on rare occasions it fails to
>>>>make the last move which would cause the draw.
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>What was the time control?
>>>
>>>jm
>>The time control was Game/5 minutes for 200 games.  This was 100 games each on
>>two different computers.  I am now running some Game/25 min matches.  In the
>>first 20 games this has not happened.
>>Jim
>
>I have been having the same problems with CM 8000. GM personalities, custom
>personalities, and xboard engines all will at times just stop moving and the
>clock runs out. I do not see a pattern so don't know if it's a bug or not. But I
>shut down the program, reboot windows, and restart the program. It still seems
>to happen in about 10% of the games while i was observing. Time control G/5 and
>G/10.
>
>Dave

Well I played 200 games at G/5 and had 7 games "Lost on time".  One or two may
have been correct sine the went past 150 moves and I was not watching.  I have
now played 40 games at G/25 and had no "Lost on time" games yet.
Jim



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